4 mill stroker , long rod or short?

[twostrokemechanic]

Hey, i need everyones opinion! this is my first owned banshee and its time for a rebuild , its .040 over with wisecos, unported stock cylinders,pro circuit pipes,ricky stator with adjustable plate adv +4 ,stock carbs with 300 mains, a cool head with 22cc domes,on pump gas,850 feet sea level. im getting kevin @ herrjugsracing to do a dune port job on it. i want to change domes to at least 19cc and run straight racing fuel at least 110 octane or 50/50 with pump gas and race fuel . ok while im at it i need a new crank.....should i go with the 4 mill stroker or stock stroke crank? and if the 4 mill which rod length, short or long? im looking for it to get all the power i can and be dependable also if possible. i started working on atvs/cycles since i was 17 and im 31 now, believe it or not ive never rode a ported banshee ! ive always worked on stock class bikes . i thought it was pretty quick with just a few bolt ons, so what are yalls opinions ?...so i can let him know what crank im going with so he can do my porting. and sorry for the long ass post!! just not too familar with the modded banshees.

[Fireroad Express]

if you got the extra quid to spend , go for the +4 long rod(115). the longer rod is more for reliability(less piston/cylinder wear). not many people go for the stock rod length any more. you'll really be pleased with the power difference these mods will make!!! be sure to tell him you are going with the+4 115mm crank before he does any porting!

Edited February 10, 2008 by the grinch

[twostrokemechanic]

oh sorry i guess it would help to tell ya my riding style,sorry.....i mostly just ride out in the open ..drag racing some and occasionally we do some flat track racing, a small 1/8 mile oval or maybe a lil bigger.

[twostrokemechanic]

if you got the extra quid to spend , go for the +4 long rod(115). the longer rod is more for reliability(less piston/cylinder wear). not many people go for the stock rod length any more. you'll really be pleased with the power difference these mods will make!!! be sure to tell him you are going with the+4 115mm crank before he does any porting!

thanks grinch!!

[Wildcardracing]

Hey, i need everyones opinion! this is my first owned banshee and its time for a rebuild , its .040 over with wisecos, unported stock cylinders,pro circuit pipes,ricky stator with adjustable plate adv +4 ,stock carbs with 300 mains, a cool head with 22cc domes,on pump gas,850 feet sea level. im getting kevin @ herrjugsracing to do a dune port job on it. i want to change domes to at least 19cc and run straight racing fuel at least 110 octane or 50/50 with pump gas and race fuel . ok while im at it i need a new crank.....should i go with the 4 mill stroker or stock stroke crank? and if the 4 mill which rod length, short or long? im looking for it to get all the power i can and be dependable also if possible. i started working on atvs/cycles since i was 17 and im 31 now, believe it or not ive never rode a ported banshee ! ive always worked on stock class bikes . i thought it was pretty quick with just a few bolt ons, so what are yalls opinions ?...so i can let him know what crank im going with so he can do my porting. and sorry for the long ass post!! just not too familar with the modded banshees.

Since ur gonna spend the money on the crank anyways, go for the stroker. Strokers make more power everywhere, especialy more torque in the bottom and mid. I'd get the longrod, because it causes less sideloading of the piston so it is more reliable. Talk to Kevin about what ridin you do the most and he'll be able to set u up with a port that's best for u. Be sure to tell him it's a stroker so he ports for that. That will eliminate the need for a spacer as long as u have domes custom cut for the stroke which Kevin can also do.

[twostrokemechanic]

Since ur gonna spend the money on the crank anyways, go for the stroker. Strokers make more power everywhere, especialy more torque in the bottom and mid. I'd get the longrod, because it causes less sideloading of the piston so it is more reliable. Talk to Kevin about what ridin you do the most and he'll be able to set u up with a port that's best for u. Be sure to tell him it's a stroker so he ports for that. That will eliminate the need for a spacer as long as u have domes custom cut for the stroke which Kevin can also do.

thanks 'slobanshee06' !

[00tbanshee]

i would go with the 4mil 115rod.i know kevin runs the 4mil stoke rod in his and has never had a problem with it and he has been running it for a couple seasons.the hotrod 4mil crank comes with the 115 rod and for the money thats what i would do.kevin ported my cylinders to that crank and it rips but i am running the drag port.what a big change it will be for you.good luck :thumbsup:

[twostrokemechanic]

i would go with the 4mil 115rod.i know kevin runs the 4mil stoke rod in his and has never had a problem with it and he has been running it for a couple seasons.the hotrod 4mil crank comes with the 115 rod and for the money thats what i would do.kevin ported my cylinders to that crank and it rips but i am running the drag port.what a big change it will be for you.good luck :thumbsup:

thanks '00tbanshee' .....not to change the subject but, is my stock clutch gonna hold up with maybe a set of stiff springs?

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have had both and it really depends on the setup... my short rod pulled harder.... but not as hard as my 7mil

[00tbanshee]

thanks '00tbanshee' .....not to change the subject but, is my stock clutch gonna hold up with maybe a set of stiff springs?

no problem.i would up grade the clutch and springs

[00tbanshee]

no problem.i would up grade the clutch and springs and also get yourself a pancake bearing.its not fun when you weld the rod and ball together

[twostrokemechanic]

yes ill have to purchase one of those! thanks

[jbooker82]

Yea go for the long rod stroker. You will need wiseco 795 series pistons, and a set of stroker domes from Noss Machine or Kevin Herr if he is doing the porting. Make sure you tell him your going to be running a stoker crank so he can port it for the extra stroke.

 

josh

[twostrokemechanic]

Yea go for the long rod stroker. You will need wiseco 795 series pistons, and a set of stroker domes from Noss Machine or Kevin Herr if he is doing the porting. Make sure you tell him your going to be running a stoker crank so he can port it for the extra stroke.

 

josh

thanks josh!

[spike]

+1 vote on the 4 mil LR. might as well do it now. if your thinking about its because you want one. so do it. I did the mistake of getting mine ported for a stock stroke. two years later I was selling my cyl to get new ones for a stroker. waste off time and money but no regrets!