Whitey Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 I'm thinking of switching my bike over to alchohol, and I don't have too much experience with the stuff. For those who are running alky: -how many hours of riding can you get out of a tank? -How much are you paying for a gallon? -Is it a big pain in the ass to purge the system? I'm going to use the bike for riding trails and hillclimbing. I'm just worried about how long I can ride on a tank. Anyone has any input? Quote
bansheefreak Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 well it burns twice as fast so you might figure it lasting half as long as your banshee does now on gas.. Quote
Animalman294 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 Call Jeff at FAST and he will fill you in on all your questions.................. Quote
bada450r Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 I'm thinking of switching my bike over to alchohol, and I don't have too much experience with the stuff. For those who are running alky: -how many hours of riding can you get out of a tank? -How much are you paying for a gallon? -Is it a big pain in the ass to purge the system? I'm going to use the bike for riding trails and hillclimbing. I'm just worried about how long I can ride on a tank. Anyone has any input? alky is strickly for drag racing in my book,if you ride trail for get it,i mean anything can be done,but would t be practical,not. :: :shoothead: Quote
Bansh-eman Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 purging is ez... allyour doig is getting a bottle and running normal premix in the carbs and motor because alky will eat your aluminum if you let it sit... Quote
dajogejr Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 Hours of riding and trail riding don't belong in the same sentence at alky.... Once you go to alky, it's ok to bounce around the dunes to get to the drag strip, but unless you plan on doing 80 to 90% drag, and trails to get to the drag, it's a bad idea... And...yes, you will go through twice as much meth as you will gas. Since you mentioned Hill climbing.... YOu might benefit from two carb setups... One setup for gas, one setup for alky for the hill climbs.... They make a quick disconnect for fuel line I'll be investing in to make purging easier...When I get done with my current build, I'll be sure to post up a bunch of pics of the progress... Quote
wesw Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 (edited) Call Jeff at FAST and he will fill you in on all your questions.................. dumb ? but there are many running alky on this site. do you think they couldnt answer his ?. not saying jeff cant but sure is plenty of alky users on hq. Edited January 28, 2007 by wesw Quote
majicmike Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 I have a buddy that has a 10mm cub with pual turner mids 2 into 1 44mm carb and all he does is hill shoot It can be done. He does have a billet float bowl and a fuel pump so the single carb can keep up with the fuel supply. There is benifits to running alcohol on a trail bike. On hot days the bike runs a 40-60 degrees cooler. In my area methanol is 2.05 a gallon where race gas is 7.00. The draw backs to runnig meth is if it is not tunned right it will load up and when you hit the gas it will fall flat on its face until you clean it out. but I will run meth in all my personal bikes dune/trail and my drag bikes it is free power! Quote
FASTOYS Posted January 28, 2007 Report Posted January 28, 2007 I'm thinking of switching my bike over to alchohol, and I don't have too much experience with the stuff. For those who are running alky: -how many hours of riding can you get out of a tank? -How much are you paying for a gallon? -Is it a big pain in the ass to purge the system? I'm going to use the bike for riding trails and hillclimbing. I'm just worried about how long I can ride on a tank. Anyone has any input? Alky is not for the average trail rider for sure. If you are not a hard core drag guy then i would not recommend it. You will use at least double the amount of fuel as others have said. Alky is around 2.55 a gal here but you figure twice as much or more and then it is 5.00-6.00 gallon per say. Need to purge it at the end of every day with gas/oil mix, alky does NOT like cold temps and really doesnt run much better than gas when temps are under 70 degress or so. Loves hot weather though, bring on the 90degree days! If your already worried about how long you can trail ride and hillclimb........I say find more usable power elsewhere IMO. Quote
Animalman294 Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 dumb ? but there are many running alky on this site. do you think they couldnt answer his ?. not saying jeff cant but sure is plenty of alky users on hq. Well, first off it wasn't a question, it was a statement, and second the sentence never said that others runnin' alky couldn't help him, and third he wanted to know answers to questions that I thought a builder would definately have the answers to............. Quote
trex banshee Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 When i made the switch to alky I could tell you huge difference on how it ran, both performce and temps. but my tank of gas under hard riding, will only last about 45 minutes. I didn't invest in any high dollar purge system either i just take the tank off and drain it every time, it doesn't bother me. And for price it is close to Jeff, I think I paid 110 dollars for a 55 gallon drum, so 2.00 a gallon. That was last summer though. Quote
Animalman294 Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 Damn, $110 thats sweet, but you go through it twice as fast if not faster. It's cool that it doesn't burn as hot though so it keeps the motor cooler............. :thumbsup: Quote
NYUK Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 i lived in philly 38 years, and rode every area there is around 150 miles sq. stick with gas, not only will you use twice the fuel, but you will use twice the pre mix oil. it is very touchy to humidity and temp. you will be jetting it daily. factor in a top end when tuning it your 1 st time.i only ran alky at the drag strip and beach st. for the woods or anything else but straight lines it is a pain in the ass. Quote
Animalman294 Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 Yeah, straight lines are about it, which is why you don't hear about any trail machines burnin' alky........... :yelrotflmao: Quote
trex banshee Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 i lived in philly 38 years, and rode every area there is around 150 miles sq. stick with gas, not only will you use twice the fuel, but you will use twice the pre mix oil. it is very touchy to humidity and temp. you will be jetting it daily. factor in a top end when tuning it your 1 st time.i only ran alky at the drag strip and beach st. for the woods or anything else but straight lines it is a pain in the ass. good points made here. everything is very true, also on the twice as much oil, there is only i believe a couple oils that will mix with alky. I run Casor 927 and that shit at the shops around me is like $8.27 for 16 oz! In my stock motor i run HP2 which is only like $5.25 for 16 oz. NYUK was right on with the top end thing for your first try, I experienced this and it sucked. Running alcohol isn't cheaper like stated earlier, yes the fuel is cheaper a gallon but you use twice as much(already stated, i know) twice as much oil (already stated I know) and then you have to get your carbs converted, that cost me $100 at GRR. then a pingel which is another $100. timing plate if don't already have one, different domes. and the list goes on and on depending on the level you want to go to. Quote
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