rynb15 Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 So my bike is almost impossible to start after it has been sitting. And im talking like 6 hours. When i kick it , its not even trying to start. Try pop starting it also nothing. But now if i spary a little eather(sp) in the carbs it starts right up like nothing was ever wrong. Now im sure this is some how really bad for the bike but its the only way. But after it starts up i can kill it and ride it all day and it will always start on the first kick, EVERYTIME. :: And the bike runs perfect. Never hesitates,stalls, anything, i ts perfect. Just after its been sitting its dead. Any help would be wonderful. :beer: Quote
bansheefreak Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 you might do a compression check .. might be time for a rebiuld.. also turn your gas on and wait few mins before you try starting it make sure carbs have fuel.. ether is not good on a gas motor especailly a 2 stroke Quote
JustinC Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 So my bike is almost impossible to start after it has been sitting. And im talking like 6 hours. When i kick it , its not even trying to start. Try pop starting it also nothing. But now if i spary a little eather(sp) in the carbs it starts right up like nothing was ever wrong. Now im sure this is some how really bad for the bike but its the only way. But after it starts up i can kill it and ride it all day and it will always start on the first kick, EVERYTIME. :: And the bike runs perfect. Never hesitates,stalls, anything, i ts perfect. Just after its been sitting its dead. Any help would be wonderful. :beer: sounds like a gummed up jrt take the carb apart and clean the jets with a straned of speaker wire, check your reeds while carb is off, oh make sure your not running to lean, could also be bad crank seal, cannot creat any sucktion. Quote
David Keith Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 So my bike is almost impossible to start after it has been sitting. And im talking like 6 hours. When i kick it , its not even trying to start. Try pop starting it also nothing. But now if i spary a little eather(sp) in the carbs it starts right up like nothing was ever wrong. Now im sure this is some how really bad for the bike but its the only way. But after it starts up i can kill it and ride it all day and it will always start on the first kick, EVERYTIME. :: And the bike runs perfect. Never hesitates,stalls, anything, i ts perfect. Just after its been sitting its dead. Any help would be wonderful. :beer: I've got a 2001 Banshee with the same type of "hard to start when cold" problem. Mine has 125 pis compression, 27.5 low speed jets, 340 mains, new crankshaft assembly with first over pistons and a Ricky Stater "checked out good" electrical system. It holds 5.5 psi for more than 20 minutes. Could the choke/starter jet circuit be the culprit??? Anyone have a set of stock carb's for sale??? PM me. Sounds like the choking system just isn't right... Quote
baddsheee Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Check the choke tube. The tube that is about 3" lond and it connects in between both carbs, it connects them together. Quote
ohiobanshee Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Try a bigger pilot jet. :beer: Quote
dajogejr Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 If it runs cleanly once it's warmed up off idle, a bigger pilot more than likely won't help... This sounds like a typical worn out engine, lower compression will make it hard to start...but, if the compression isn't unreasonably low, it'll run pretty good once warmed up. Now is the time to run a compression check before it gets too worn out and something lets go.... Has this been getting progressively worse, or just started to happen? My bone stock 96 motor last year was taking more and more kicks to start .... It was at or around 100PSI by end of year, and I built a whole new motor this year...however, I'm sure if I would've freshened it up....it would've ran better and started much easier... If your banshee is properly tuned, it should fire up in one or 2 kicks everytime...sometimes needing choke in colder weather, but....a twin two stroke is very, very easy to fire off.... Quote
Uncle Stashu Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 This may sound funny, but a buddy of mine recently purchased a Banshee and he was having a heckuva time getting the thing to start.....turned out he wasn't pulling the choke out past the first detent. The choke knob on these things has quite a bit of "travel" compared to what he was used to on previous bikes he's owned, and apparently the dealer didn't demonstrate this to him........ Quote
rynb15 Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Posted November 5, 2006 thanks for the replys guy. How do i do a compression test? I guess something screws into the spark plug hole? And where would i buy the guage at? Also if it does need a rebulid what all would need to be done? I was told buy the guy i got it from it got rebuilt in march. Quote
Quint Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 Not sure whether you are doing this but i felt like a right tit when my apprentice jumped on my banshee which has had the same problems for a couple of months and it started right up! he pulled the choke to half way and kicked it, no throttle no full choke no messing!! i had been kicking it to death every time i tried to start it, did the compression, jet clean, choke tube the lot drained the tank, and all along it was my gormlessness! you are probably doing it right but guess it was worth mentioning! Quote
fox_forma Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) My shee does it on occasion as well with not starting after its been sitting. What I do now is turn the gas on, keep the kill switch in the off position and give it a few kicks, then turn everything to the run position and kick it, it normally fires right up. It helps to get a little mix in the cylinders before it fires up I guess. It could need a bigger pilot though, eventhough after it has been started it fires right up afterwards, that could just be bacuase the bike already has gas flowing through it and its warmed up. Have you tried turning your air screw in a turn or so and see if it starts easier>? Edited November 6, 2006 by fox_forma Quote
rynb15 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 i have not messed with the carb at all. Im pretty sure its because its not getting gas. Because when i do spray the eather in there the first time it only burns it off then dies. If i give it gas nothing happens. But after i spary it in the the 2nd time is when it starts right up with no problems. Quote
fox_forma Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 has the temp changed at all where your located? Quote
dajogejr Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 It's probably a good idea to get a clymers, learn how to dissasemble, clean and reassemble your carbs. Also...since there's two of them...they need to be synchronized too... They're really not that difficult to figure out, and your own "tool time" with them will be an invaluable experience.... You need a good, small engine compression tester. I personally like Snap On, but...they're high dollar. Craftsman make a nice one for very cheap. You should follow the Clymer instructions on how to properly test compression.... Hot engine, one cylinder at a time, throttle held wide open, keep on kicking till it doesn't go up any more basically. Here you go: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?...UseBVCookie=Yes Quote
rynb15 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 I have only had it a few weeks and thats how it has been. And thanks for the link. Thats exactly what i was hoping for. :beer: Quote
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