spacer plate

[RILS]

Do they work pretty good? And does anybody have one they will sell for a 4mill?Oh yea ive been reading a lot of threads on this.I already have a good port job and if I use the spacer plate will it still be good?Or will it fuck my port timing up.What made me decide to do this is i got to thinking about my non welded crank and all the mods ive been doing and the 183psi, so I went ahead and sprung for a 4mill trued and welded with tz bearings, but i got the standered rods because my pistons are not a week old and wanted to still beable to use them.I have anthother set of stk unported jugs that i could set up for this but I want to get a cub later and would like to use the ones i allready have.

Edited July 6, 2006 by RILS

[decon]

Some people use the spacer plate...and some use special cut domes for the added stroke. I would go with the spacer plate just because with the stroker domes your pistons are rising above your cylinders which could fry your rings...I think it's a disaster waiting to happen...but I guess it's whatever floats your boat

Edited July 6, 2006 by dEcon

[odaen]

Some people use the spacer plate...and some use special cut domes for the added stroke. I would go with the spacer plate just because with the stroker domes your pistons are rising above your cylinders which could fry your rings...I think it's a disaster waiting to happen...but I guess it's whatever floats your boat

 

having your pistons rise above the deck shouldn't have any ill effects on rings, because there's a certain space between the timing edge of the piston and the ring grooves, which is a larger distance then the negative deck height.

[decon]

having your pistons rise above the deck shouldn't have any ill effects on rings, because there's a certain space between the timing edge of the piston and the ring grooves, which is a larger distance then the negative deck height.

 

glad to see some further knowledge on the subject... :thumb:

[RILS]

having your pistons rise above the deck shouldn't have any ill effects on rings, because there's a certain space between the timing edge of the piston and the ring grooves, which is a larger distance then the negative deck height.

Thanks for the advice odaen.I talked to cameron today and he told me to get some cut domes and just use my cylinders like they are he said they shoud run fine.He also said that my exhaust is at 196 and that if i raised it by two more mm it will be to high and the transfers have been raised and this will raise them more.He said that lowering the transfer floors would help a little but that it should run really well like it is.How much diffreance would lowering them make?Anyway thanks for the advice he was a real nice guy that seemed to know his shit.How well does his porting run I might get him to set me up a set of cylinders in the future.Im thinking about going to the cub but I just love that steath look.I want a set of stk 4mill cylinders that will run like a cub do yall know anybody that can do this without chargeing the price of the cub?

[odaen]

Thanks for the advice odaen.I talked to cameron today and he told me to get some cut domes and just use my cylinders like they are he said they shoud run fine.He also said that my exhaust is at 196 and that if i raised it by two more mm it will be to high and the transfers have been raised and this will raise them more.He said that lowering the transfer floors would help a little but that it should run really well like it is.How much diffreance would lowering them make?Anyway thanks for the advice he was a real nice guy that seemed to know his shit.How well does his porting run I might get him to set me up a set of cylinders in the future.Im thinking about going to the cub but I just love that steath look.I want a set of stk 4mill cylinders that will run like a cub do yall know anybody that can do this without chargeing the price of the cub?

 

there are numerous builders that can make stock cylinders run good. I use to have your line of thinking, in that more HP is better. there's a suggested list of things to do to your motor to accomodate the extra horsepower (clutch, carbs, pipes, reeds, etc), but the real challenge with those motors is getting the horsepower to the ground. if your chassis and suspension aren't hooking all that HP to the ground, then it's being wasted.

 

the guy you called today can certainly port a set of stock cylinders, and I'd recommend him highly. he's done 2 4mm motors for me and will be working on the 3rd very soon. cam's the man.

[RILS]

there are numerous builders that can make stock cylinders run good. I use to have your line of thinking, in that more HP is better. there's a suggested list of things to do to your motor to accomodate the extra horsepower (clutch, carbs, pipes, reeds, etc), but the real challenge with those motors is getting the horsepower to the ground. if your chassis and suspension aren't hooking all that HP to the ground, then it's being wasted.

 

the guy you called today can certainly port a set of stock cylinders, and I'd recommend him highly. he's done 2 4mm motors for me and will be working on the 3rd very soon. cam's the man.

Thanks for the advice.Im going to get this 4mill running strong and the clutch will be next.And then I will be getting to the suspention.My oldlady wont let me spent to much at once.I think I am going to talk to Cam about doing this spare set of stk cylinders.How are his prices we really didnt get into that.

[DemonShee]

I have Odeans last set of Cyl's that Cam did and man I tel ya, they are AWESOME! I am going to contact Cameron tomorrow because I need some needles and a new coil.

 

Bruce, could you send me his number please? Thanks man.

[creamsickle]

cam is the man. he built my 421 cub duner motor. love it. was just down there today getting some new domes cut cause I changed out my base gasget. hell of a nice guy. bruce when you going riding next? or when you getting another shee put back together. cams # is 541 367 2453

Kris,

[odaen]

cam is the man. he built my 421 cub duner motor. love it. was just down there today getting some new domes cut cause I changed out my base gasget. hell of a nice guy. bruce when you going riding next? or when you getting another shee put back together. cams # is 541 367 2453

Kris,

 

 

i gotta couple things up my sleeves, man.

[creamsickle]

share the news man I wanna know what you are going to be getting. and when ya going riding next. dont worry my shee can tow ya back if you burn off a plug hehehehe.

[csrmel]

i was awalys under the impression that if you dont add a spacer plate it will effect youre port timing in a legative wayt and lead to potential lost power?

 

i thought that if you are going with stroker you need to get 1 of 3 things done.

1. spacer plate

2. get the cyls reported to match the piston's top when at tdc AND bdc and also run cut domes.

3. use a stroker cyl, i think theres a special cub cyl for each mill of stroke?

 

am i right, wrong, crazy? someones got to make sence of this.

Edited July 8, 2006 by csrmel

[platinumjason]

I'd go with the cut domes, Ive heard of a few people having problems with blowing the head gasket/seals with the stroker plates.

[locogato11283]

i wouldnt fuck with a spacer plate. id do it right and go with cut domes. cameron does some excellnet work. we have 2 of his motors and they run hard...

[bansheefreak]

i wouldnt fuck with a spacer plate. id do it right and go with cut domes. cameron does some excellnet work. we have 2 of his motors and they run hard...

yeah i heard cameron is awesome guy .. maybe one day i will get his dunable over ride would be nice to have... so you still running the f.a.s.t. motor??? or all redline now.???