Satsol67 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Posted June 2, 2006 Well i got her back together and shee runs great but i am alittle concerned about the color of the plugs. Does the brand of oil make a difference in the color of the plugs? I am using Bel-Ray 2 Cycle oil this time and the color to me looks like a grayish brown. Is that how it should look or is it lean? Here is a pic of them. I would heat to go though all this and mess up the motor. Thanks another pic Quote
DIRTMAN350 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Posted June 2, 2006 looks rich to me. also how old are your plugs? Look carbon fouled. Quote
Satsol67 Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Posted June 2, 2006 These are the ones that i had in before the rebuild that i tried to clean up. I am going to buy me some new ones tomorrow. One side was missing until i switched them.. So you think its rich? I added more oil to be on the safe side. bit i will go back to 32:1 until i feel safe them i will go to 40:1 .. Where can i find i good pic of how they should look? I did a search for spark plugs here but go all kinds of stuff. Quote
Dead Op Posted June 2, 2006 Report Posted June 2, 2006 You are rich on your jetting lean out your main jet a size or 2 Quote
Justintoxicated Posted June 3, 2006 Report Posted June 3, 2006 adding more oil makes your bike Leaner. Jetting is your Fuel/Air Ratio, more oil = less fuel... Quote
Satsol67 Posted June 3, 2006 Author Report Posted June 3, 2006 ok i am going to get new plugs tomorrow then get everyone opion... my mains are 280. and i noticed my needle is on the second spot from the bottom. Thats how it was when i got it so i need your all's help on making sure its right. After i put the new plugs in it i will take another pic. Thanks guys! Quote
Dead Op Posted June 3, 2006 Report Posted June 3, 2006 (edited) Work your way down to a 260 main, and put the needle clip in the 3rd slot. Edited June 3, 2006 by Dead Op Quote
MILO Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 shouldn't you do a plug chop before changing the mains?? maybe it's just rich in the middle, so moving the needle is all that needs done. if it's rich, it's probably loading up and sputtering somewhere throughout the throttle, which would determine exactly where the change needs to be made. Quote
Screamin_Banshee Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 If it was me, and I just rebuilt the engine, then I would jet it a bit rich. I would then do a break in cycle (heat up, cool down, repeat) for a tank or so, then start jetting it down. Always use new plugs in a new engine... Quote
MILO Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 adding more oil makes your bike Leaner. Jetting is your Fuel/Air Ratio, more oil = less fuel... jetting is fuel to air ratio... increasing fuel with maintaining air level is making it more rich - increasing air flow while maintaining fuel level is making it more lean adding more oil to the gas makes the premix more rich, not lean. Quote
ssanddemon Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 adding more oil to the gas makes the premix more rich, not lean. This is correct, but: more oil (richer premix) does in fact cause a leaner air/ fuel ratio. Quote
Satsol67 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) I got new plugs yesterday and when i put them in i noticed they gave me BR8ES. Whats the R for? And does the R matter? It seems to be running great. Other then when i shut if off the right carb drips out of the over flow. Does the needle and seat have rubber at the end to shut off the fuel when the float reaches the top? If so I am thinking that while they were sitting durning the rebuild it shrunk from no fuel being in the carb. Does that sound right? I pulled the carb off and cleaned it out and ajusted the float a litte but it is still leaking. Is it time to get a rebuild kit for it? Thanks Edited June 4, 2006 by Satsol67 Quote
Screamin_Banshee Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 I got new plugs yesterday and when i put them in i noticed they gave me BR8ES. Whats the R for? And does the R matter? It seems to be running great. Other then when i shut if off the right carb drips out of the over flow. Does the needle and seat have rubber at the end to shut off the fuel when the float reaches the top? If so I am thinking that while they were sitting durning the rebuild it shrunk from no fuel being in the carb. Does that sound right? I pulled the carb off and cleaned it out and ajusted the float a litte but it is still leaking. Is it time to get a rebuild kit for it? Thanks The R stands for resistor type plugs. If I remember correctly that factory plus is a R...look it up, I might be wrong. But, they wont hurt you to run them. As for the carb leaking, you can try pulling the need out (float needle) and use a q-tip to clean the seat. Also blow out the whole with a small amout of compressed air, to remove all the shit. Check the needle end, where the rubber point it. If its dirty, clean it, or if need be (if the rubber is jacked up) replace it. Quote
Dead Op Posted June 4, 2006 Report Posted June 4, 2006 shouldn't you do a plug chop before changing the mains?? maybe it's just rich in the middle, so moving the needle is all that needs done. if it's rich, it's probably loading up and sputtering somewhere throughout the throttle, which would determine exactly where the change needs to be made. MILO is right do a plug chop Quote
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