rocketboy Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 not to take anything away from jeff but every builder is currently busting his ass i n the wee hours to get things done and running behind schedule .IMO i dont really see why yo u guys are bashing this kid (fasterthan..) ,he is only stating his own experiance and his opinion on the returned package . he has already said hes happy with the performance but felt packing was poor for a reputable builder . thats an important part of the process and as we al lknow these engine run up into the thousands$$$ really quickly ,i dont htink hes trying to belittle jeff Quote
race-a-holic Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) Blue duece,I was doing the taping.Sure I've seen bikes that will run faster but for a 350 I thought they were impressive.I've seen sno-mobile engine quads,crotch rocket engine quads on nitrous,10 mils,14 mils.Yeah,they would outrun 350's.Duh. All this aside,you're entitled to your opinion.Fair enough. Edited May 4, 2006 by race-a-holic Quote
Blue Duece Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 im not busting his balls i agree with him if his shit was shipped funky, sounds like the builder needs to hire some help, im just saying theres so much more to a race motor than mailing your juggs out, if you looked at a race team the guy who built the WHOLE motor is out at the track fucking with it constantly, if you just mail your shit out you got what you got, its like ordering some reeds online........ive heard guys bitch there shit dont run, this guy sent me that and that guy sent me that and now im fucked.........anyones whos sent the builder their bike or even there whole engine, raise their hand.......cause i know i allways have and my shit runs perfect, didnt come back to me in a milk crate, but also didnt cost me 299.99......... Quote
race-a-holic Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 I see your point blue duece.I'm not sure if Jeff has help or not.I have heard of different builders joining together just trying to keep up.That is a good idea.I think alot of builders didn't expected such a large amount of people upgrading their bikes.There's plenty of builders flooded with work. If my motor comes back in a bad container,I would be mad too.I don't want to get in on that certain topic.Both guys have their opinion on that.If a guy has an honest complaint that's fine,and I'm not saying he doesn't.Wish Jeff would give his' opinion on this but that might just start a huge argument and get way out of hand. Quote
FasterThanU90 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 "If my motor comes back in a bad container,I would be mad too" the first words out of my mouth when i saw that box was "what an asshole" my stomach fucking dropped what a great way to spend 3 gs, I guess if u want it done right do it urself Quote
Blue Duece Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 i hear ya race, after a bunch of banter, jim at passion started to lay low, im sure jeff is buried, he does seem like a straight forward dude just trying to make a living and enjoy what he does as we all do, after reading this thread im sure he'll make sure his shipping tactics get tuned up a little, but alot of the guys seem to like his shit, so he packed something shitty, we can all get over that, the bottom line is if you can call him and he'll walk you through getting your bike to run (as ive heard he does) ..........then he's doing his job Quote
9603banshee Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 My experience w/ jeff at F.A.S.T. racing was exceptional!! He did a great job throughout the total build on my cub motor!! couldn't have asked for better service!! another Kudos to F.A.S.T. Jeff!! Quote
race-a-holic Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 "If my motor comes back in a bad container,I would be mad too" the first words out of my mouth when i saw that box was "what an asshole" my stomach fucking dropped what a great way to spend 3 gs, I guess if u want it done right do it urself 511656[/snapback] I thought about how much money I dumped into my bike.It's depressing. Getting it back together and dialed in should be the cure.LOL! Does the motor run like you expected? Yeah,I want my motor handled right too.I talk alot with Jeff.I don't want to jump on either side over your motor.That's between you guys. Quote
dajogejr Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 I just spent about 2500 with Jeff, cub stroker, NOSS head, and some odds and ends, gaskets, etc. I've shipped a ton of shit in my day. I work with Computers. You think it's tough to ship a little steel/aluminium motor, try shippping a 10K server, laptop, etc. My shit was packaged right...I'd almost say Jeff used too many styrofoam peanuts, etc. Fasterthanpoo...did Jeff not ask you to take pictures of the items and packaging to take a claim with UPS? Did he not try to resolve this problem with you?? I don't care how well you pack something...if something is dropped 30 feet plus from a cargo hold on a UPS plane...it's going to be rough. Many of you have flown, you see the way those guys toss around your luggage. And that's just clothes, etc... Maybe you should tell the whole story instead of just the little bit you endulged us with here... I can appreciate your input...but tell the whole story... Quote
2bzy2p Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) dude that must be the most uve ever spent was 3 gs!!! that aint shit,, hes got those orders all day long ...that aint shit for a drag bike which im sure yours isnt cause u guys run some stupid ass pipes and small carbs and when your shit dont run u blame it on the port, my phone call to kim was 4800$ then made another and have to make another call. so dont act like 3gs is a million dollars in this game bud.jeff does have someone helping him tear down and assemble.. HALF OF U GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT GOES ON IN PORTING... U WANT YOUR SHIT FAST AND BACK FAST,, WELL ILL GIVE U A HINT THE LONGER THEY SPEND ON YOUR CYLINDAR THE FASTER IT WILL BE.. a guy like jeff or cairo or kim or dan or any off those guys can spend 45 hrs porting a cylindar. u have to port then look at again later and youll see something u missed on top off that ive been at jeffs shop when he cant get anything done cause hes got to talk to people at his shop,on the phone. or answer dumass questions like what radiator fluid should i run..besides your buisness dude get real youll never make it u dont have a fucking clue what your doing and u lie about everything!!! the one thing i can say is these guys get no breaks man ,yes its what they chose to do but damn how easy to get burnt out by it!!!HEY FASTERTHAN U JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT TAKE A SHIT IN YOUR CYLINDARS LIKE I SAID I WAS GONN!!!!!!! and if i recall someone told me when your shit got to jeffs shop it was packaged like shit and about fell on the floor when he opened it up..*****@!!! Edited May 4, 2006 by 2bzy2p Quote
FasterThanU90 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 "so he packed something shitty, we can all get over that" no not just "so" thats sum bullshit he reasurred me of his shipping and how it was very quality the bottom line is if you can call him and he'll walk you through getting your bike to run (as ive heard he does) ..........then he's doing his job" that isnt a big deal bro id do that for anyone even if it wasnt my work Quote
2bzy2p Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 dude that must be the most uve ever spent was 3 gs!!! that aint shit,, hes got those orders all day long ...that aint shit for a drag bike which im sure yours isnt cause u guys run some stupid ass pipes and small carbs and when your shit dont run u blame it on the port, my phone call to kim was 4800$ then made another and have to make another call. so dont act like 3gs is a million dollars in this game bud.jeff does have someone helping him tear down and assemble.. HALF OF U GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT GOES ON IN PORTING... U WANT YOUR SHIT FAST AND BACK FAST,, WELL ILL GIVE U A HINT THE LONGER THEY SPEND ON YOUR CYLINDAR THE FASTER IT WILL BE.. a guy like jeff or cairo or kim or dan or any off those guys can spend 45 hrs porting a cylindar. u have to port then look at again later and youll see something u missed on top off that ive been at jeffs shop when he cant get anything done cause hes got to talk to people at his shop,on the phone. or answer dumass questions like what radiator fluid should i run..besides your buisness dude get real youll never make it u dont have a fucking clue what your doing and u lie about everything!!! the one thing i can say is these guys get no breaks man ,yes its what they chose to do but damn how easy to get burnt out by it!!!HEY FASTERTHAN U JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT TAKE A SHIT IN YOUR CYLINDARS LIKE I SAID I WAS GONN!!!!!!! and if i recall someone told me when your shit got to jeffs shop it was packaged like shit and about fell on the floor when he opened it up..*****@!!! 511672[/snapback] Quote
race-a-holic Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) dude that must be the most uve ever spent was 3 gs!!! that aint shit,, hes got those orders all day long ...that aint shit for a drag bike which im sure yours isnt cause u guys run some stupid ass pipes and small carbs and when your shit dont run u blame it on the port, my phone call to kim was 4800$ then made another and have to make another call. so dont act like 3gs is a million dollars in this game bud.jeff does have someone helping him tear down and assemble.. HALF OF U GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT GOES ON IN PORTING... U WANT YOUR SHIT FAST AND BACK FAST,, WELL ILL GIVE U A HINT THE LONGER THEY SPEND ON YOUR CYLINDAR THE FASTER IT WILL BE.. a guy like jeff or cairo or kim or dan or any off those guys can spend 45 hrs porting a cylindar. u have to port then look at again later and youll see something u missed on top off that ive been at jeffs shop when he cant get anything done cause hes got to talk to people at his shop,on the phone. or answer dumass questions like what radiator fluid should i run..besides your buisness dude get real youll never make it u dont have a fucking clue what your doing and u lie about everything!!! the one thing i can say is these guys get no breaks man ,yes its what they chose to do but damn how easy to get burnt out by it!!!HEY FASTERTHAN U JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT TAKE A SHIT IN YOUR CYLINDARS LIKE I SAID I WAS GONN!!!!!!! and if i recall someone told me when your shit got to jeffs shop it was packaged like shit and about fell on the floor when he opened it up..*****@!!! 511672[/snapback] To me 3 grand is alot.Not everybody has a ton of money to dump into a quad.For a guy that barely gets by and is trying to build a bike,3g is huge.I understand that.Don't knock a guy that just has 3 g to spend. Yeah,I don't know what all goes on at Jeff's shop.I don't see how he get anything done with all the phone calls.If I have a question such as radiator fluid and I have dumped big money into a quad,I want an answer.Yes,Jeff would take the time to answer that.That's one of the reasons I like dealing with him. Edited May 4, 2006 by race-a-holic Quote
FasterThanU90 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 fuck arguing on this pussy ass site u dick jockeys can blow me ill line up next to any of yah anyday "Does the motor run like you expected?" i still need to get a chain but it started up 2nd kick the first time and runs strong so far, sounds fucking mean Quote
Blue Duece Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 he reasurred me of his shipping and how it was very quality the bottom line is if you can call him and he'll walk you through getting your bike to run (as ive heard he does) ..........then he's doing his job" that isnt a big deal bro id do that for anyone even if it wasnt my work 511673[/snapback] if i was him id repack it in what you sent it in................so you own your own business and when joe blow calls you and says he's doing biz with your competitor and he wont be spending any money with you, and the other guys to busy to talk but could you walk me through the other guys shit and help me out, and i'll need to call you ten times a day, youd do that? Quote
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