milo_32000 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I found a rz 350 junked out, supposed to have a bad crank, has been sitting up for several years, are the cylinders the same as Banshee other that the power valves ? Are the power valves a plus ? and is it worth fooling with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee17Racing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 If you don't want it...I do. Definately check it out. RZ cylinders will bolt to Banshee cases, and the powervalves are why people do the swap. I'm not sure on all of the other parts you'll need to run the motor, but I know quite a few members here have RZ jugs or know plenty about them. Either way it sounds like everything you'll need is on the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Many Toys Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 (edited) It's worth fooling with if the price is right on the RZ engine. The powervalves are a plus. Like stated above. If you don't want it, I'll take it. Edited March 7, 2006 by Too Many Toys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broke Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I'll get in line for those. I am on my second RZ jugged motor. My current is a little bit more than stock, but without a doubt try it if you don't mind some rewiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shee-Male Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 deffinatly worth doing, if you have the rest of the bike then you'll have the rest of the peices you'll need to make it work. The RZ also comes with a high watt stator! its makes almost an additional 15 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb4lo Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 HEHEHE I m a Rz racer and i swap for Cubs ! So , i would nt bother with electric transplant , Cdi swap , power valves set up ..... , pipes mods to fit the barrels Cubs are FAR stronguer than RZ and i know my shit , i own lot of RZs ! Go for Cubs and forget RZ top end but id take for some of my some bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee17Racing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Go for Cubs and forget RZ top end but id take for some of my some bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broke Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) It's not even the cost, you're talking about two different types of motors. I will take on ANY cub motor in the trails. I climb hills from a crawl in 3rd gear with out ever touching the clutch. I have never ridden a Cub, but the port timing of it doesn't lend itself to a motor that would ever pull like mine down low. Cubs are unbelievable motors, but they are built for a loosely specific purpose. My motor will never rev like a Cub or even be in the same ballpark for top end. As far as a fireroad/dune/drag motor, dollar for dollar it probably has no equal, but to tell some body that RZs aren't worth it is idiotic. I've had two very good builders build both my motors, so the builders may have something to do with how they run. I'm glad you race RZ's, but it's a different type of racing. Edited March 9, 2006 by broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked98Shee Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) shit i would love to build a rz shee .. just the tope end swap..... whats the deal with the electrical transplant for just the pv jugs??? Edited March 9, 2006 by Wicked98Shee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troy.s Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 If you want the power valves to be operational, for electronics you need the RZ cdi box, power valve controller, power valve servo motor, voltage regulator, and the fake battery. You'd probably want the RZ stator and flywheel too. After you get all that stuff and find a place to mount it, then you get to build your wiring harness which is big fun. Like someone else said you have to build exhaust adapters to hook up banshee exhaust too. Then you have the vast selection of exhaust to choose from that actually fits around the valve, Paul Turner mids and Rockets are the two that I know of. I've had both, and I like the Rockets, with the exception of trying to check or change spark plugs, especially when it's hot. It's nice to have now, but was a lot of screwing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strokersquid Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 seb4lo you said on the rd/rz forum that cubs were too much for a street rz so ive not orderred them. are they ok for a street rz ( i have a 4mm long rod crank im keeping in storage for my next street bike rebuild ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb4lo Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 seb4lo you said on the rd/rz forum that cubs were too much for a street rz so ive not orderred them. are they ok for a street rz ( i have a 4mm long rod crank im keeping in storage for my next street bike rebuild ) 484292[/snapback] Well , in fact it s useless on a street bike , stock/pipes is far enough Cubs gives you a screaming deamon , i don t know your level but it s ok for a race bike , a road bike with a cub top end would be very scary on a road runner under the rain ...... it s the same thing that running a TZ250/350 with road tires / cars coming from nowere / dogs / grand mothers ..... too dangerous for me so i run on tracks .... just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzcolobanshee Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) I have an entire RZ350 top end with electronics that I would like to get rid of. What's included: Cylinders .050 they look good probably just need a hone Head Powervalves Powervalve control unit Powervalve servo motor Regulator/Rectifier CDI Stator Flywheel Wiring harness with everything stripped out that you don't need from the rz Exhaust flanges This thing is ready to go, you won't have to put up with the headaches i did to get it to this point. Here's what I want...I need the full banshee electrical system to replace this which is the stator, flywheel, cdi, regulator and wiring harness. Then I would like some cash on top of that, it will depend on what you have (high output stator, lightened flywheel would reduce the price) I'll also consider trades (inframe cpis, aftermarket shocks, billet, etc...) or I may sell it all outright if the price is right....best offer gets it I will get some pics this weekend, just have to find a camera that isn't full of sand lol Edited March 10, 2006 by rzcolobanshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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