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Just to give you an idea how brain dead you are, you keep saying I'm a sheep being sent to the slaughter as if that's a bad thing. How many evil sheep are there in the bible?

 

Do you know what an allegory is? Look it up. You are AS a sheep led to slaughter.

You are the one who is brain dead. If you cannot explain this, which is just the first of many things I have in store that you cannot explain, then you are wrong.

 

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Isaiah 44:24-26

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, AND he that formed thee from the womb, I AM the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF; 25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; 26That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers....

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Did you know that the original hebrew texts of the Bible NEVER used Jehovah ANYWHERE in the NEW TESTAMENT...NO WHERE, and very infrequently in the Old Testament. Do a little research. Did you know that the founder of your religion was a Free Mason? If you knew the implications of that you WOULD TAKE NOTICE. That is why, if you went to the grave memorial (he chose to be creamated) of Charles Taze Russel, you would see a PYRAMID was erected at his instruction with various PAGAN insignias. Just like the MASONIC PYRAMID SYMBOL that is found on our very own ONE DOLLAR BILL! THE ALL SEEING EYE!!! Do you know the translations of the greek verbage that surrounds the "all seeing eye pyramid" on the back of our very own one dollar bill? It's Masonic. Russel knew VERY WELL what he was doing when he founded your religion.YOU SHOULD do a little research because you are AS a lamb led to slaughter.

 

Again, if you cannot explain the scripture above and also why the LORD in the Old Testament and JESUS in the New Testament BOTH said that they are ALPHA and OMEGA, FIRST and LAST, then YOU ARE WRONG.

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The "LORD" in Isaiah is speaking of the one your bible calls Jehovah at Psalm 83:18. In fact your bible explains who god is and HOW TO READ that specific translation in the preface. You must have skipped over that part. And really if rj would read the preface of his bible, it will most likely say the same thing. Would you care to quote it?

How is it that you say Jesus is speaking in Revelation?

And who the heck is Charles Russel and why should I care what kind of grave marker he has?

Jesus is the one I follow... NOT Charles Russel.

 

And Ice... the bible does say to get along but the example of Jesus was that those who knew better were rejected and even Jesus himself made a whip of ropes and drove out the crooked ones from his father's house. Of course 04 reads that same scritpure and when Jesus says he is driving them from his fathers house, Jesus meant he was driving them from his own house but he was too stupid to realize he was talking about himself :shrugani:

God is not the bi-polar, dual personality, schizo that 04 makes him out to be.

As if God would say... I'M GOD, uhhh I mean I'M JESUS and GOD, uhhh and I'm uhhh gonna go and kill myself but I won't be dead I'll just trick the stupidest of my followers into thinking I'm dead and uhhh I'll be a ghost too! Yeah that sounds cool. And when I pray I'll pray to myself and fake everyone out when I'm really talking to myself from earth and heaven at the same time. And I'll insist that there is only one of me but I'll burn anyone forever in Hell if they don't actually believe that there is 3 of me rolled into one but not one but 3. Yeah 'cuz I'm God and that's the kind of stuff I can do because I can.

If there was a guy that came up to you and said he was three people and one of the 3 killed himself for you, you'd send him to the nuthouse because he IS crazy. But when someone imagines that GOD says the same thing and they use an obscure metaphor like Alpha and Omega to prove it, they are somehow directed by God. Outrageous. 04 claims to be God too. Why don't you jump off a cliff and see if you survive? Even Jesus wasn't going to do that. While you're obsessing over Charles Russel whoever that is, you are ignoring the constant facts that Jesus submitted to his father. Get your red letter bible out and READ the gospels. Mark down how many time Jesus SUBJCTED himself and took the lower position to his father. He even says that in so many words... the father is greater than I, I will subject myself, Jesus learned to obey {but God knows all things and who would God ever obey???}, Jesus died {God cannot die} God knows all things, Jesus admitted that he did not know things the father knew, Jesus called on his father for strength {or was he praying to himself when no-one else was looking?} Jesus even sweat blood because of his stress, {could almighty God be put under that kind of stress for the humans that the bible calls as insignificant as dust on a scale} Jesus said he should not be called good because only the father is good and on and on and on. Again, it's obvious that what you have learned is from hate based websites and your serious confusion on how to understand simple english words like father, son, submit, obey, learn, die, good, greater, pray etc. Instead of trying to be a bible scholar, you should watch seasame street. At least there you can learn that "one of these is not like the other".

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Im no bible scholar but...I think it says to get along with each other in the bible somewhere too.

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You don't have to be a Bible scholar to know God's word dude. It's just this simple, the Bible says that Jesus is to be lifted up and exalted above EVERYTHING. God will NOT have any contemptuous spirits in his presence. God is WORTHY of being HUMBLE before. It is a very modest request on God's part don't you think? Indeed we should be thankful for His mercy and Grace that HE and HE alone bestows on believers. Also to strive to walk in the Light of Christ with deeds of love and a joyful heart. But the Bible also says to:

 

2 Timothy 4:2-5

2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3For the time will come when they will not endure SOUND doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 5But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

 

The Epistle Of Paul To TITUS 2: 11-15

11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. 15These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority, Let no man despise THEE.

 

No offense Iceman, but if you knew Jesus or the Bible, you would be in FULL support of rj and I.

 

Matthew 8:11,12

11And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

Notice that the children who sit down with the WRONG "God" are cast into outer darkness. The children of Jesus Christ are of the light:

 

1Thessalonians 5:4,5 Speaking of the second coming of Christ:

4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Ephesians 5:13,14

13But all things that are reproved (you have not reproved yourself) are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. 14Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light

5:20 Giving thanks always unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ: 6:6 "but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart".....12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places....23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace be with them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

 

Notice 5:20 says God AND the Father, 6:23 says God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.. They are ONE. If that were not true the Bible would NEVER MIX THE TITLES, but it does FREQUENTLY because it is written to make it clear to those who Jesus said "should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their HEART, and should be converted, and I should heal them" .

You will also notice that it says that it is "Gods will" to be a "servant of Christ".

 

 

 

 

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Isaiah 44:24-26

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, AND he that formed thee from the womb, I AM the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF; 25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; 26That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers....

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YOU HAVEN'T EXPLAINED ANYTHING. BUT I'M STILL LISTENING. TO BAD YOU AREN'T.

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Also Dave, if you are too afraid to do a little research on the founder of your religion and on the Free Masons, then you are TRULY BRAINWASHED, as was the intention of the founder of your religion from the start. The good news for me is that NOTHING could have bolstered my faith more than SEEING FIRST HAND the wicked agenda of Free Masons and the founder of YOUR religion. Just like Jesus said, "He that hath (Jesus) shall be given more abundance (faith) and he that have not shall be taken away even that which he (thought) he had". It all makes PERFECT sense, just like the Bible, as long as you DO NOT DENY THE DEITY OF CHRIST.

For your information, the Free Masons are a very secret society that are behind the scenes ushering in what they believe will be a "new world order" and their power is far reaching. Their beliefs and ANCIENT RITUALS are nothing short of evil. Global domination is their goal and they have been at it for a LONG LONG time. Free Masons were instrumental in the formation of the United Nations. They are SWORN to secrecy and have great political persuasion, and have for a LONG LONG time. The members of your average neighborhood "lodge" are just as blind as you are. George Washington, our first president, was a Free Mason. MANY current PROMINENT people are Free Masons. It is an INTERNATIONAL orginization. They are highly influential in the media industry, for example and are responsable for what basically amounts to subliminal programming of the masses and conditioning us for their objectives. Matt Groening of the Simpsons is an avowed atheist and Free Mason and it is interesting that one Simpson episode involved Homer going to a "cement masons" lodge where the members of the lodge found a "birth mark" on Homer and proclaimed him as a god that they were anticipating the arrival of and Homer went home thinking he was a god. Michael Jacksons last album had cover art with the masonic "all seeing eye" and a lake with fire in the background. Madonna's "like a prayer" song allegedly has a message clearly audible when played backwards that says essentially "praise to satan" and the video for the song has her dancing with an image of the "all seeing eye" on her forehead.. The Eagles hotel california also supposedly has a clearly audible subliminal message. They have been subliminally attacking for quite some time now and the new program on tv called "Revelations" is an abomination of satan. Have you seen that commercial on TV were a guy is in a store and is stashing things away in his overcoat and it clearly appears as though he is shop lifting as he walks right through the checkout without paying, when a security gaurd stops him, only to tell him that he forgot his receipt. It was promoting a new credit technology that they are conditioning us for. There is technology available now that amounts to a tiny micro chip that can be placed under the skin, like what is currently being used on family pets for identification. There is a similar i.d system for humans that some very rich paranoid people already have, to track them by GPS if they are ever kidnapped for ransom. The technology is available. It is foreseeable the prophecy in Revelations being fulfilled of the mark of the beast being such that, without out it, even everyday transactions (buying and selling as the Bible says) will not be possible without it, however with their chip they could feasibly i.d. and track EVERY SINGLE HUMAN on the globe with computers. The founder of your religion WAS A FREE MASON and has a PYRAMID with PAGAN symbols on his memorial in PENNSYLVANIA. ARE YOU THAT BRAINWASHED that you will risk being wrong in such a GRAVE matter, that you won't do a little research?

And by the way this is all breaking news to me, which I stumbled on when I researched the origin of jehovah witnesses a little, trying to figure out why you guys deny the deity of Christ.

 

As you know, the Bible is full of prophecy that has ALREADY been fulfilled, as will the rest of it. Many many scholars have TRIED to find discrepencies and or faults in the Bible with the INTENTION of trying to dispel it, but NO ONE has been able to...it stands as God's WORD. Carbon dating of the ancient scripts PROVES that they PREDATE many many historical events that were prophesied, including "natural" calamities. The Bible is infallable

but it only makes sense when you ACCEPT the deity of Christ as proven by the fact the you, who are probably an "elder", cannot adequately refute the VERY CLEAR scriptures that PROVE the deity of Christ.

The only reason your wicked religion calls you an "elder" is because they scripture pick the Bible, taking things out of context to try and bolster their wicked agenda.

In the case of calling you an "elder" (if you are one) the goal was simply to enable cutting off the pretext of any questions from the "flock" by refering any person who questions something that doesn't mesh with the full context of the Bible to 1Timothy 5:1 which says "Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father"

So again, are you THAT brainwashed that you will risk such calamity for you AND your family rather than doing a little research and LISTENING TO YOUR HEART like JESUS said... 15For this peoples heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their HEART, and should be converted, and I should heal them .

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God is not the bi-polar, dual personality, schizo that 04 makes him out to be. As if God would say... I'M GOD, uhhh I mean I'M JESUS and GOD, uhhh and I'm uhhh gonna go and kill myself but I won't be dead I'll just trick the stupidest of my followers into thinking I'm dead and uhhh I'll be a ghost too! Yeah that sounds cool. And when I pray I'll pray to myself and fake everyone out when I'm really talking to myself from earth and heaven at the same time. And I'll insist that there is only one of me

 

Maybe you are INTENTIONALLY a wicked man. Either that or you are blind. Regardless, you are doomed if you do not leave your cult and find the TRUE

LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

 

1 John 5:7-21

7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. 14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask anything according to his will, he heareth us: 15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. 16If any man see his brother sin a sin whch is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17All unrighteousness is sin: and their is a sin not unto death. 18We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not: but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. 19And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. 21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

 

 

God brought salvation by grace for the Gentiles (us) by way of Jesus Christ because

God is all knowing and has FORSEEN the wicked ways of satan in this world and he knows that the Gentile children are HELPLESS in these days, and He is a MERCIFUL GOD, indeed the ALMIGHTY GOD.

 

Did you do a google search on the Free Masons yet? Maybe you are one.

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I already showed you that "ONE" does not mean the same. It means of like mind. Jesus and the apostles were "ONE" also. Are the apostles God too.

 

PS... I know alot of masons but non of them work for free B)

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I'm glad you keep coming back for more Balaam. Let's see what else you can call down upon yourself. So it is obvious that you ARE aware of the agenda of the FREE MASONS which is controlled by the ILLUMINATI, as is your religion. Now I know why your ebay screen name is "Imperial House" of racing.

 

THIS IS NO JOKE PEOPLE. ANYONE WHO IS WITH US STILL, TAKE THE TIME TO DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" and "ILLUMINATI". THEY ARE SECRET SOCIETIES THAT HAVE BEEN HELL BENT ON GLOBAL DOMINATION BECAUSE THEY ARE HEADED UP BY VERY EVIL PEOPLE!!!! THEY ARE THE WORST KIND OF WICKED AND VERY VERY POWERFUL ON THIS EARTH. THIS IS NO JOKE. TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK AT THE FACTS WITH A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH OF THOSE TWO WORDS, INDIVIDUALLY AND TOGETHER. THERE IS A WEALTH OF UNDENIABLE EVEDINCE. "THEATRE OF WAR" IS A TERM WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MANY MANY PAST WARS AND REVOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN, A "THEATRE" PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED BY EVIL MEN. THIS COUNTRY AND MUCH OF THIS WORLD HAS BEEN BUILT ON A LIE THAT IS SWORN TO SECRECY. THE SECRET SOCIETY OF "SKULL AND BONES" AT YALE UNIVERSITY, WHICH GEORGE BUSCH IS A MEMBER OF, WAS FOUNDED BY THE VERY SAME MAN WHO FOUNDED THE jehovah witness CULT, AND HE WAS A FREE MASON. THE HIGHER UP MEMBERS OF THESE SECRET SOCIETIES ARE ALL EITHER OCCULTISTS OR MEN WHO SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT RATHER BELIEVE THE LIE OF THE DEVIL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE POWER AND RICHES OF THE EARTH. THEIR RITUALS AND RIGHTS ARE NOTHING SHORT OF EVIL, IT IS DEVIL WORSHIP AS PLAIN AS DAY, AS YOU WILL SEE IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH ALL OF THE INFORMATION WITH A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" AND "ILLUMINATI". THIS IS WAY WAY PAST "CONSPIRACY THEORIES", RESEARCH ILLUMINATI AND FREE MASONS FOR YOURSELF AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. THE BIBLE FORTOLD OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ILLUMINATI ONLY 3 1/2 YEARS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CHRIST, AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DID ABOMINATIONS IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE FORM OF THE CRUSADES, BRINGING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ORTHODOX FORMS OF "CHRISTIANITY" (THEY ARE PSEUDO (FAKE) RELIGIONS WITH UNKNOWING FLOCKS. ANY RELIGION THAT DENIES THE DEITY OF CHRIST OR PUTS ANOTHER (MARY) ABOVE OR EQUALL TO CHRIST ARE ANTICHRIST. SUCH AS CATHOLICISM, JESUITS (WHO STUDY MATHMATICS AND ASTROLOGY) AND MANY MANY OTHERS. THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE THING satan CAN DO IS ANYTHING THAT IS AN ABOMINATION TO A TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, OF WHICH THERE ARE STILL MANY I'M SURE, ALTHOUGH I DO NOT ATTEND A CHURCH, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TO BE SAVED BY THE LORD. YOU SHOULD TELL SOMEONE ABOUT THE LORD WHICH IS GOING TO BECOME MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE AS THE TRUTH OF THE ILLUMINATI IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY THE INTERNET, THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF MUCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING SYSTEMS (satan IS CONTROLLING THE WORLD WITH MONEY JUST AS PREDICTED IN THE BIBLE). THEY ARE ALSO BEHIND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE UNITED NATIONS AND MANY OTHER GLOBAL ORGINIZATIONAL FRONTS. THEY CONTROL MUCH OF THE MASS MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY AND MANY OTHERS AND THEY WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A "NEW WORLD ORDER" THAT IS THEIR DOCTRINE AND THEY HAVE ALREADY FULLY CONDITIONED US TO ACCEPT THAT TERM BUT WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS A ONE WORLD ORDER. THERE IS NO HUMAN WAY TO STOP THEM, BUT GOD WILL. THIS IS WELL PAST CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND GOD HAS BROUGHT LIGHT TO THIER EVIL THROUGH THE INTERNET. DO THE GOOGLE SEARCH AND READ AND YOU WILL SEE THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH. THIS SHEDDING OF GODS LIGHT ON THEIR EVIL, THROUGH THE INTERNET, IS NO DOUBT WHAT REVELATIONS MEANS WHEN IT SAYS THAT THE DEVIL WILL SEND THE BEAST WITH WRATH BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE TIME IS SHORT. THIS IS NOT FANTASY, THIS IS REALITY. Keep in mind people that the Bible prophecies speak CLEARLY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO of end time calamaties (destruction) that will be brought by NATIONS (man) on the scale that could not be conceived of BEFORE THE GLOBAL NUCLEAR AGE WHICH THE ILLUMINATI USHERED IN...it literally says a mans "flesh, eyeballs and tongue will be (flash) burned to ash as he STANDS!!! THIS IS TO OCCUR IN THE VERY REGION THAT IS THE MIDDLE EAST. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN OF SUCH COMINGS BUT GOD HIMSELF. THE ILLUMINATI WANTS A MUSLIM VERSUS CHRISTIAN WAR BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ANNIHALATE BOTH!!!

THE BIBLE HAS GIVEN US THE REAL TRUTH WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST. THROUGH IT ALL HE IS THE SHINING LIGHT OF THE REAL ALMIGHTY GOD.

 

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Isaiah 44:24-26

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, AND he that formed thee from the womb, I AM the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF; 25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; 26That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers....

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In Isaiah 44:6 God says:

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

(do you see that? AND HIS REDEEMER the LORD of hosts"...they are ONE from the beginning of the beginning...they are BOTH FIRST and they are BOTH LAST because they are ONE! Therefore Jesus COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED!)

Isaiah 48:12 God said:

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he ; I am the first, I also am the last.

Revelations1:8 Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelations 1:11 Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:

Revelations 22: 12-13 Jesus said:

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 

DO THE GOOGLE SEARCH ON "FREE MASONS" and "ILLUMINATI" PEOPLE, I URGE YOU!!!!! THE FREE MASONS AND THE ILLUMINATI ARE SO DECEITFUL, AS THE BIBLE PREDICTED, THAT SOME OF THEM ARE THE VERY SHRINERS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ADMIRED AND RECOGNIZED BY THEIR DISTINCTIVE RED "FEZ" HAT WITH THE STRANGE SYMBOL ON IT WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER AND WOULD SEE THEM AT THEIR PARADES OR CIRCUS WHICH THEY PUT ON TO CONTIBUTE TO THE FALSE IMAGE OF THE FREE MASONS. THE FRIGHTENING PART IS THAT THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY SATANISTS WHO PRACTICE HUMAN SACRIFICE TO THIS DAY (THEY HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THEIR "CHRILDRENS HOSPITALS" THAT THEY DISGUISE AS THEIR GREAT GOOD DEED TO SOCIETY. I SHUDDER TO THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS) Again keep in mind that the Bible prophecies speak clearly thousands of years ago of end time destruction brought by nations that would have been humanly impossable to conceive of before the GLOBAL NUCLEAR AGE. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN OF SUCH COMINGS BUT GOD HIMSELF. WHEN YOU SEE THE WICKED WAYS OF THESE SECRET ORGINIZATIONS UNDENIABLY REVEALED, YOU WILL REALIZE THAT THERE TRULY IS A DARK SIDE SET POLAR OPPOSITE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, A DARK SIDE THAT IS TO BE FOREVER TORMENTED BY THE LIGHT OF GOD. THE ILLUMINATI IS AN OFFSPRING OF ANCIENT EGYPTIAN CULTS WHO BUILT THE PYRAMIDS AND WORSHIPPED THE gOD OF DARKNESS, A gOD OF VERY LIMITED POWER BUT THE TRUTH AND LIGHT OF CHRIST IS ALMIGHTY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NO JOKE PEOPLE, DO A GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" AND "ILLUMINATI" AND LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR YOURSELF, AS WELL AS THE TESTAMENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE LOWER ESCHALONS OF THE SECRET SOCIETIES, AS WELL AS THE OTHER SYMBOLICALY CLEAR EVEDINCE THAT HAS BEEN FORCED ON OUR CULTURE, AND THEN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS BROUGHT SALVATION BY GRACE FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN HIM BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT HIS "GENTILE CHILDREN", WHICH IS US, WOULD BE HELPLESS IN OUR SOCIETY OF CALCULATED WICKEDNESS, HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE NO LONGER GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE BECAUSE OF THE LIES OF satan. ANYONE READING THIS WHO DOESN'T KNOW GOD BETTER LEARN, OR ELSE LEARN TO BE AFRAID. GOD IS EASY TO KNOW. HIS NAME IS JESUS AND YOU LOVE HIM BECAUSE HE LOVED YOU FIRST. THEN LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND YOU ARE HOME FREE.

 

Keep coming back for more Dave, because the Light of Jesus will NEVER stop shining.

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I think we have discovered your true identity. You are dirtrider or whatever his name was. The crack head who thought the entire world was on some secret mission to destroy each other but you could only find that out by smoking 6 bowls of weeds and standing on your head for 8 hours or more and reading every third verse of Revelation.

A little help for you here too... "I know alot of masons but non{e} of them work for free B) ". Let me help you understand the simplicity of this.

A brick layer is called a mason. Most of my inlaws are bricklayers. In fact 4 generations of my inlaws are "masons". And as business owners, they don't work for free. If you look at my sig, you will see that I use double entendre ALOT!

Open your eyes and you will see that having your head firmly rooted in your own rectum is not really the best place to be. Although you are what you eat.

Next one... Imperial House of Racing...

In 1990 I started a home remodeling business that I named after my CAR. A 1972 Chrysler Imperial. It was an awesome car... 8 way power seats, telescoping tilt wheel, climate control, 6 power windows, full power everything else, 440 engine etc. Gold metallic exterior, Gold vinyl top and Gold leather interior. I named my business... Imperial Home Restoration. I ran that for 6 years and eventually changed careers. When I got back into ATV's and started selling bearings, I wanted to remember my old car {which had by that time been sold}. So I kept the acronym IHR and made it work.

 

When Jesus said that his apostle should be "one" the same as he was "one" with his father and the same as he was "one" with his apostles, does that make the apostles God too?

The reason you get more angry by the minute is because you have no substance in your biblical aregument. And instead of turning to the bible, you call google to the rescue. "Oh Lord Google save me" and some hate site about the Free Masons pops up and you're off and running again.

What makes it even worse is when someone like iceman asks a valid question, instead of turning him to the bible, you basically tell him to get lost. It's the same tactic the pharisees used. Jesus healed people on the sabbath from diseases and defects that they had for years and the pharisees were splitting hairs about what day of the week it was.

And you repeatedly lump yourself in the same category as rj but you already said that anyone who doesn't use YOUR bible is from the devil {metephorically speaking}. Guess what... he doesn't use your bible.

We may have lost rj by this time anyway and since I can't seem to get the exact same translation as his, I may have to just use the one I have. I wanted to start rj out by looking at the preface of his translation.

Just like any valid reference book, a good translation of the bible will have a preface. The preface explains IMPORTANT POINTS about how the bible is layed out and HOW TO READ and UNDERSTAND the use of #1 words in all caps, #2 words in italics, #3 words in brackets, and most importantly every bible should explain how the one and only name of GOD is translated in that version.

rj if you are still here and there is anything that I haven't already addressed, please let me know. I'd be happy to continue where we left off.

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Read this post people and then take a minute to do a google search on the words

"Free Masons" and "Illuminati". THIS IS SCARY STUFF AND IS NO JOKE. IT IS WAY PAST CONSPIRACY THEORIES...LOOK AT THE EVEDINCE. THEY ARE SECRET SOCIETIES OF MEN WITH GREAT AND FAR REACHING POWERS ON THIS EARTH (AT THIS TIME) AND THEIR AGENDA IS NOTHING SHORT OF WICKED! READ THIS POST (AS CRAZY AS IT MAY SOUND) AND THEN GOOGLE SEARCH THOSE TWO WORDS AND START READING, AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.

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I'm glad you keep coming back for more Balaam. Let's see what else you can call down upon yourself. YOU are the one who EVERYONE can see is WRONG. Now that I know that you support Free Masonry (You probably are one), I don't have a single word more to say to YOU. I will however continue to bump this thread with instruction for people to research the Free Masons and Illuminati on their own so that their wicked agenda is brought to light. (If anyone gets tired of seeing me bump it, please understand that it is important for EVERYONE to get this message)

 

THEY ARE BEHIND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE UNITED NATIONS AND MANY OTHER GLOBAL ORGINIZATIONAL FRONTS.THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF MUCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING SYSTEMS (satan IS CONTROLLING THE WORLD WITH MONEY JUST AS PREDICTED IN THE BIBLE).

 

"We wonder sometimes when policies we are assured will be put in place, when each part gets into power are slow to materialise. This is because the international bankers have their own policy and this takes precedence over the parties. Contracts have been signed when money was borrowed from the central banking fund set up by the world bankers to get countries tied into contracts for just such an occasion. Markets are made and lost to manipulate the flow of money from one source to another.

We are given the illusion we are self governing when in fact we are tied to the world bank like a mortgage."

 

THEY CONTROL MUCH OF THE MASS MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY AND MANY OTHERS AND THEY WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A "NEW WORLD ORDER" THAT IS THEIR DOCTRINE AND THEY HAVE ALREADY FULLY CONDITIONED US TO ACCEPT THAT TERM BUT WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS A ONE WORLD ORDER. THERE IS NO HUMAN WAY TO STOP THEM, BUT GOD WILL. THIS IS WELL PAST CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND GOD HAS BROUGHT LIGHT TO THIER EVIL THROUGH THE INTERNET. DO THE GOOGLE SEARCH AND READ AND YOU WILL SEE THE UNDENIABLE TRUTH. THIS SHEDDING OF GODS LIGHT ON THEIR EVIL, THROUGH THE INTERNET, IS NO DOUBT WHAT REVELATIONS MEANS WHEN IT SAYS THAT THE DEVIL WILL SEND THE BEAST WITH WRATH BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE TIME IS SHORT. THIS IS NOT FANTASY, THIS IS REALITY. Keep in mind people that the Bible prophecies speak CLEARLY THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO of end time calamaties (destruction) that will be brought by NATIONS (man) on the scale that could not be conceived of BEFORE THE GLOBAL NUCLEAR AGE WHICH THE ILLUMINATI USHERED IN...it literally says a mans "flesh, eyeballs and tongue will be (flash) burned to ash as he STANDS!!! THIS IS TO OCCUR IN THE VERY REGION THAT IS THE MIDDLE EAST. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN OF SUCH COMINGS BUT GOD HIMSELF. THE ILLUMINATI WANTS A MUSLIM VERSUS CHRISTIAN WAR BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ANNIHALATE BOTH!!!

THE BIBLE HAS GIVEN US THE REAL TRUTH WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST. THROUGH IT ALL HE IS THE SHINING LIGHT OF THE REAL ALMIGHTY GOD.

 

 

THIS IS NO JOKE PEOPLE. ANYONE WHO IS WITH US STILL, TAKE THE TIME TO DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" and "ILLUMINATI". THEY ARE SECRET SOCIETIES THAT HAVE BEEN HELL BENT ON GLOBAL DOMINATION BECAUSE THEY ARE HEADED UP BY VERY EVIL PEOPLE!!!! THEY ARE THE WORST KIND OF WICKED AND VERY VERY POWERFUL ON THIS EARTH. THIS IS NO JOKE. TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK AT THE FACTS WITH A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH OF THOSE TWO WORDS, INDIVIDUALLY AND TOGETHER. THERE IS A WEALTH OF UNDENIABLE EVEDINCE. "THEATRE OF WAR" IS A TERM WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO ACCEPT AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MANY MANY PAST WARS AND REVOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN, A "THEATRE" PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED BY EVIL MEN. THIS COUNTRY AND MUCH OF THIS WORLD HAS BEEN BUILT ON A LIE THAT IS SWORN TO SECRECY. THE SECRET SOCIETY OF "SKULL AND BONES" AT YALE UNIVERSITY, WHICH GEORGE BUSCH IS A MEMBER OF, WAS FOUNDED BY THE VERY SAME MAN WHO FOUNDED THE jehovah witness CULT, AND HE WAS A FREE MASON. THE HIGHER UP MEMBERS OF THESE SECRET SOCIETIES ARE ALL EITHER OCCULTISTS OR MEN WHO SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT RATHER BELIEVE THE LIE OF THE DEVIL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE POWER AND RICHES OF THE EARTH. THEIR RITUALS AND RIGHTS ARE NOTHING SHORT OF EVIL, IT IS DEVIL WORSHIP AS PLAIN AS DAY, AS YOU WILL SEE IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH ALL OF THE INFORMATION WITH A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" AND "ILLUMINATI". THIS IS WAY WAY PAST "CONSPIRACY THEORIES", RESEARCH ILLUMINATI AND FREE MASONS FOR YOURSELF AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. THE BIBLE FORTOLD OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ILLUMINATI ONLY 3 1/2 YEARS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CHRIST, AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO DID ABOMINATIONS IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE FORM OF THE CRUSADES, BRINGING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ORTHODOX FORMS OF "CHRISTIANITY" (THEY ARE PSEUDO (FAKE) RELIGIONS WITH UNKNOWING FLOCKS. ANY RELIGION THAT DENIES THE DEITY OF CHRIST OR PUTS ANOTHER (MARY) ABOVE OR EQUALL TO CHRIST ARE ANTICHRIST. SUCH AS CATHOLICISM, JESUITS (WHO STUDY MATHMATICS AND ASTROLOGY) AND MANY MANY OTHERS. THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE THING satan CAN DO IS ANYTHING THAT IS AN ABOMINATION TO A TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, OF WHICH THERE ARE STILL MANY I'M SURE, ALTHOUGH I DO NOT ATTEND A CHURCH, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TO BE SAVED BY THE LORD. YOU SHOULD TELL SOMEONE ABOUT THE LORD WHICH IS GOING TO BECOME MUCH EASIER FOR PEOPLE AS THE TRUTH OF THE ILLUMINATI IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY THE INTERNET, THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

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Isaiah 44:24-26

24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, AND he that formed thee from the womb, I AM the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth BY MYSELF; 25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish; 26That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers....

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In Isaiah 44:6 God says:

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

(do you see that? AND HIS REDEEMER the LORD of hosts"...they are ONE from the beginning of the beginning...they are BOTH FIRST and they are BOTH LAST because they are ONE! Therefore Jesus COULD NOT HAVE BEEN CREATED!)

Isaiah 48:12 God said:

Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he ; I am the first, I also am the last.

Revelations1:8 Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelations 1:11 Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:

Revelations 22: 12-13 Jesus said:

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

 

DO THE GOOGLE SEARCH ON "FREE MASONS" and "ILLUMINATI" PEOPLE, I URGE YOU!!!!! THE FREE MASONS AND THE ILLUMINATI ARE SO DECEITFUL, AS THE BIBLE PREDICTED, THAT SOME OF THEM ARE THE VERY SHRINERS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ADMIRED AND RECOGNIZED BY THEIR DISTINCTIVE RED "FEZ" HAT WITH THE STRANGE SYMBOL ON IT WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER AND WOULD SEE THEM AT THEIR PARADES OR CIRCUS WHICH THEY PUT ON TO CONTIBUTE TO THE FALSE IMAGE OF THE FREE MASONS. THE FRIGHTENING PART IS THAT THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY SATANISTS WHO PRACTICE HUMAN SACRIFICE TO THIS DAY (THEY HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THEIR "CHRILDRENS HOSPITALS" THAT THEY DISGUISE AS THEIR GREAT GOOD DEED TO SOCIETY. I SHUDDER TO THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS) Again keep in mind that the Bible prophecies speak clearly thousands of years ago of end time destruction brought by nations that would have been humanly impossable to conceive of before the GLOBAL NUCLEAR AGE. WHO COULD HAVE KNOWN OF SUCH COMINGS BUT GOD HIMSELF. WHEN YOU SEE THE WICKED WAYS OF THESE SECRET ORGINIZATIONS UNDENIABLY REVEALED, YOU WILL REALIZE THAT THERE TRULY IS A DARK SIDE SET POLAR OPPOSITE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, A DARK SIDE THAT IS TO BE FOREVER TORMENTED BY THE LIGHT OF GOD. THE ILLUMINATI IS AN OFFSPRING OF ANCIENT EGYPTIAN CULTS WHO BUILT THE PYRAMIDS AND WORSHIPPED THE gOD OF DARKNESS, A gOD OF VERY LIMITED POWER BUT THE TRUTH AND LIGHT OF CHRIST IS ALMIGHTY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NO JOKE PEOPLE, DO A GOOGLE SEARCH OF "FREE MASONS" AND "ILLUMINATI" AND LOOK AT THE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR YOURSELF, AS WELL AS THE TESTAMENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE LOWER ESCHALONS OF THE SECRET SOCIETIES, AS WELL AS THE OTHER SYMBOLICALY CLEAR EVEDINCE THAT HAS BEEN FORCED ON OUR CULTURE, AND THEN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. THE BIBLE SAYS JESUS BROUGHT SALVATION BY GRACE FOR ALL WHO BELIEVE IN HIM BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT HIS "GENTILE CHILDREN", WHICH IS US, WOULD BE HELPLESS IN OUR SOCIETY OF CALCULATED WICKEDNESS, HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE NO LONGER GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE BECAUSE OF THE LIES OF satan. ANYONE READING THIS WHO DOESN'T KNOW GOD BETTER LEARN, OR ELSE LEARN TO BE AFRAID. GOD IS EASY TO KNOW. HIS NAME IS JESUS AND YOU LOVE HIM BECAUSE HE LOVED YOU FIRST. THEN LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND YOU ARE HOME FREE.

 

Keep coming back for more Dave, because the Light of Jesus will NEVER stop shining.

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That last rant about free masons and the illuminati is so far out in left field that you can't possibly hope to be taken seriously.

If you were thinking clearly at all, you would see that instead of bringing people to God, you are driving them away and forcing them to look into practices that even you say are demonic. So far, you have spread your hate message about Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Free Masons, Muslims, Illuminati, iceman, me, and pretty much anyone else who has taken the time to try to dignify your nonsense with a reasonable reply. You have proclaimed that you and rj are the only ones here who know God but you and rj don't even use the same bible.

You have claimed that there is only one God but then turned him into a 3 headed freak. You claim to love Jesus but Jesus died even for sinners and all you want to do is condemn.

Your whole twisted concept of God is based on death and not life.

The wicked must die and cannot be reformed. The good must die to be in God's kingdom. Even God had to die so that when you die, you'll have something to live for :shrugani:

Can't you see how stupid that is? God created LIVING things and ALL of them have the desire to LIVE. God put that desire into them. Satan is the one that wants to kill everything. Can't you see that you have fallen into Satan's trap of "all must die to be happy"? How perverse is that?

You are a miserable person who is filled with doom and hatred. No wonder you speak with such conviction about hell. You take your own pitiful, lonely, pathetic, unhappy, hate filled life and add fire. Who's next on your hate crusade? Jews, people of color, asians, inter-racial couples, people who speak creole, people who wear red on Thursday. You repeat the same thing over and over and over again hoping for s different reply. Can't you understand that repeating the same action and expecting a different result is one of the main signs of insanity?

I've showed you that Jesus, his followers and God were all "one". Can't you see these words on the page? Don't you understand them?

Do yourself a favor. While you are researching the pagan rituals of the Masons and illuminati, do some research on Easter. You will find that it too is firmly based on ancient pagan sex rituals. And your celebration of it is NO DIFFERENT than the shriner devils who still celebrate their pagan holidays. They claim to worship God and you do to.

In the end All you really need to do is pull your head out of your butt, come up for a breath of fresh air and then go visit your family and friends. I'm sure they'd love to see you without having to take you in for a colonoscopy.

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O.K. gentlemen, I know that its probably in this post somewhere,I have either missed it or its not here. I would like to know what churches,religions you all are talking about. Please, church of christ, catholic, jahova sp.ect.

 

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