quadfever54 Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 I can't get the swing arm bolt to break lose, the nut is off and when I try to drive the bolt out it does not budge, wondering if the bushings have worn a groove that may be hanging it up. any suggestions????? please Quote
RNBRAD Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Will it turn with a wrench, just not back out? Take a piece of wood preferably an oak 2x2 place it against the threaded end and whack it with a large rubber mallet, this is exactly what I used to get mine out just a few months ago. Quote
quadfever54 Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Posted December 7, 2004 I can't get the swing arm bolt to break lose, the nut is off and when I try to drive the bolt out it does not budge, wondering if the bushings have worn a groove that may be hanging it up. any suggestions????? please 289934[/snapback] the bolt does turn and I already used wood and a drift with a 3 lb sledge, seems like something is holding it in place. does not budge Quote
racer Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 i cut mine out with an angle grinder and a 5inch cutting wheel. faster than a hammer. youll have to buy a new bolt and sleeve though. as they are ruined anyways it shouldnt be a big deal. Quote
boonman Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 You need a BFH. (Big Fuckin' Hammer). Actually, you need a bigger hammer. Also, try tipping the bike on it's side, so you can really get some good swings on it with an 8 lb. or so sledge... Get pissed at it, and give it hell. Try to get an impact on the other side, and get it tto turn. (spin) It will still be frozen to the sleeve, but you should be able to get it out.... Quote
Holyman Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 (edited) Yeah what boon said. There is a sleeve that the bolt goes thru and the sleeve is rusted to the bolt. The bearings ride on the outside of the sleeve so usually the bolt will tun but since the sleeve is welded to the bolt because of rust and junk, the only way to get it out is with the hammer. Heat will not work because there is an air gap between the outside of the swingarm and the inner sleeve and you could cook the swingarm til it's red and still not effectively heat the sleeve inside. The best thing to do is lean it over to the side and really wail on it. once you get it hammered flush with the frame, flip it over on the other side and pound it back in. It may take a few times doing this but it will come out. Before you put it all back together, drill the swingarm for a grease fitting. The dimensions shown are where to put the grease fitting and the sleeve is the thing in the first pic. I drill a hole in it too so that when you grease the bearings, you get some grease to the bolt. Of course if you grease the bearings the chances of ever having to remove the bolt are much smaller but at least if you decide to get a diff swingarm, you can get the old one off. The last pic shows how it all goes together. The sleeve is sticking out of the end of the swingarm a little. The dust caps go on over that and the swingarm goes in the frame. The bolt goes thru the sleeve. Total cost to install a grease fitting is about $1. Well worth the effort. Edited December 7, 2004 by Holyman Quote
racer Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Holyman, what do you think of BenBB's idea of putting the grease fitting in the bolt. like welding up the hollow bolt and the drilling and tapping one side for the fitting. then cross drill the bolt and sleeve like you have already done. any ideas on that? Quote
locogato11283 Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 You need a BFH. (Big Fuckin' Hammer). Actually, you need a bigger hammer. Also, try tipping the bike on it's side, so you can really get some good swings on it with an 8 lb. or so sledge... Get pissed at it, and give it hell. Try to get an impact on the other side, and get it tto turn. (spin) It will still be frozen to the sleeve, but you should be able to get it out.... 290021[/snapback] exactly. youll prolly tear up the bolt but theres really no other way to get it out. you can buy a bolt from NYUK on this site prolly. i bought one from him a few months ago. Quote
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Last time I bought that bolt it was around $40 at the dealership. So beat the hell out of it but don't dick up the threads. Quote
RNBRAD Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 When you get it out of there, let me know, I have a bolt that is practically new. Used for a while till I got my Stainless steel bolt. Quote
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 When you get it out of there, let me know, I have a bolt that is practically new. Used for a while till I got my Stainless steel bolt. 290163[/snapback] Where'd you get a stainless bolt of that size? Just curious. Quote
Holyman Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 Holyman, what do you think of BenBB's idea of putting the grease fitting in the bolt. like welding up the hollow bolt and the drilling and tapping one side for the fitting. then cross drill the bolt and sleeve like you have already done. any ideas on that? 290083[/snapback] I tried that and wasn't really happy with the outcome. It seems my bolt was hardened and I couldn't drill it for nothing plus the hole in the sleeve would have to line up with the cross drilled hole in the bolt for the grease to go in easily and with the grease fitting sticking out of one end, if you did have to put the hammer to it, you would have to hammer right on the grease fitting. For me it was just as easy putting it in the swingarm itself. A couple quick measurements and it was in there. Quote
RNBRAD Posted December 7, 2004 Report Posted December 7, 2004 quote=PUSH THE THROTTLE,Dec 7 2004, 06:40 PM] When you get it out of there, let me know, I have a bolt that is practically new. Used for a while till I got my Stainless steel bolt. 290163[/snapback] Where'd you get a stainless bolt of that size? Just curious. 290169[/snapback] Check the link.Alloy Boltz[ Quote
boonman Posted December 8, 2004 Report Posted December 8, 2004 A complete rebuild "kit" is about $50. Which includes a new bolt, sleeve, and bearings. You need all three. If your shit is that rusted up, you will need all new anyways. So go ahead, and beat the ever lovin shit out of it. Quote
pro line Posted December 8, 2004 Report Posted December 8, 2004 i had the same thing happen to mine and a heavy duty press couldn't get it out. I ended up doing alot of cutting and and drilling. Just make sure you greese the hell out of everything when you put it back together. I haven't had a problem in 3 years. Good luck I hope it works out. Quote
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