Klotzban1 Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 ok here is the deal....After letting my banshee sit a week or so it takes atleast 10 or more kicks to start her. Carbs are clean and plugs look a dark brown. I'm using B7ES plugs. After it starts it runs fine and will start the first kick after being warmed up. If I let it set a week or longer it takes that many kicks to get her running again. what could be the problem? ignition...maybe? Quote
FIRST BANSHEE Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 the choke circuit might not be working properly, or your reeds are weak. your rings could be wore not creating enough vacuum to pull enough fuel when cold. It could just be a cold hearted bitch... Quote
Klotzban1 Posted December 5, 2004 Author Report Posted December 5, 2004 My banshee has never had any rebuild or port work done on it. I bought it about three years ago from a friend of mine who wanted a fourstroke. It always seems to run Great when warmed up. I might do a compression test on it and see if it has lost any. Last I knew it was drawing 115 on one side and 110 on the other, and that was a year ago when I put my coolhead on.Banshees are easier to start than all kickstart quads out there, and I could be sporting a weak motor and not no it. I've been doing alot of thinking on which to do ...you know....porting or rebuild to a big bore...not to drastic.....but reliable and durable. Quote
Banchetta Posted December 5, 2004 Report Posted December 5, 2004 Low compression will cause it to start hard. I seen a shee w/ 85/105psi of compression and would not start unless you pulled it down a road. The guy finally rebuilt it and walla, starts first kick every time. Stock shees run 128psi at sea level. Quote
Klotzban1 Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Posted December 7, 2004 I'm not to sure what rebuild kits or porting is the best way to go. I do alot of mx riding and I like dunes and once in a while an occasional drag. I'm looking for something with a hard pull that can blend pretty good with my goodies below.I'm looking to go v force at sometime and am willing to add more things to complete a rippin Banshee. It's gonna be interesting to see if my shee needs to go into surgury. I know that on two drag races my shee went Bleh off the line, which tells me that shees .....not feeling too good. Quote
Banchetta Posted December 10, 2004 Report Posted December 10, 2004 I'm not to sure what rebuild kits or porting is the best way to go. I do alot of mx riding and I like dunes and once in a while an occasional drag. I'm looking for something with a hard pull that can blend pretty good with my goodies below.I'm looking to go v force at sometime and am willing to add more things to complete a rippin Banshee. It's gonna be interesting to see if my shee needs to go into surgury. I know that on two drag races my shee went Bleh off the line, which tells me that shees .....not feeling too good. 290320[/snapback] Rebuild it meaning you have to pull the cylinders and have them bored out and put some oversize pistons in. Should be night and day if your compression is low. Buy a compression guage for $20-30 and see where you stand. you should be around 128 on both sides at sea level. Quote
Klotzban1 Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Posted December 22, 2004 I think that I'm somewhere around 1042 above sea level pulling 110 on one side and 115 on the other. jetted 260 using 1 K&n filter setup with no airbox. Quote
Otis Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 I'm using B7ES plugs why the hotter plug? Quote
bigboybanshee Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 I think that I'm somewhere around 1042 above sea level pulling 110 on one side and 115 on the other. jetted 260 Quote
Klotzban1 Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Posted December 22, 2004 Didn't you say those numbers were from a year ago when you put the head on? I checked my compression one day and then again about 4 months later and it changed quite a bit....I ended up toasting my rings and that's where I sit now. And guess what my indication was......my banshee was hard to start. Sound familiar? I think a top end job will be your fix 296586[/snapback] Yes its been about a year since I put my coolhead on and had the compression checked...Your right things can change alot in that amount of time. I'll check it out. I got to messing around one day and pulled the choke out half way and it started in 4 kicks after a week sitting. Thats not to bad...right? Quote
bigboybanshee Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 No, it's not too bad...but to be totally honest with you, mine did the exact same thing for a couple of rides, then it got to the point I was kicking it 20 times to get it started. Check your compression when you get the chance, I'd bet the farm that's where the issue lies. lol, for the longest time I thought it was jetting, etc...all my friends were telling me to check the compression but I just couldn't cope with the fact it could drop so quick in only a few months. But, sure enough, I check the compression and I had gone from 148 in both to 85 and 100. I think my problem was the fact my rings were near replacing, and when I put my head on and bumped up the compression it went ahead and did them in....probably the same scenario for you Let us know what you find! Quote
bobbybonilla Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 when you are going back a week later to start it try warming up the head and plugs with a torch or a hairdryer alittle bit, that always helps me alot. Quote
sredish Posted December 22, 2004 Report Posted December 22, 2004 when you are going back a week later to start it try warming up the head and plugs with a torch or a hairdryer alittle bit, that always helps me alot. 296641[/snapback] aahhhahahahaa Thanks for the laugh. That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Torching your head. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like a jerk like that, but you should not have to torch or heat your head up to get it to start within 10 or 15 kicks when it hasn't been started in a week. Above all, like bigboy mentioned, if someone has to kick their motor 10 times or more to get it started when it normally has ran good, it is time for a compression check, pronto. That way you can rule out a new top end. If the compression turns out fine, then it may be time to look at jetting, but compression first always. Quote
Banchetta Posted December 23, 2004 Report Posted December 23, 2004 aahhhahahahaa Thanks for the laugh. That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Torching your head. I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like a jerk like that, but you should not have to torch or heat your head up to get it to start within 10 or 15 kicks when it hasn't been started in a week. Above all, like bigboy mentioned, if someone has to kick their motor 10 times or more to get it started when it normally has ran good, it is time for a compression check, pronto. That way you can rule out a new top end. If the compression turns out fine, then it may be time to look at jetting, but compression first always. 296652[/snapback] But its easier to heat it up then to jet it, and make sure everything is right..... Quote
PUSH THE THROTTLE Posted December 23, 2004 Report Posted December 23, 2004 when you are going back a week later to start it try warming up the head and plugs with a torch or a hairdryer alittle bit, that always helps me alot. 296641[/snapback] While you have the torch out you might as well warm up your gas tank too. Just kidding DO NOT HEAT YOUR GAS TANK WITH A TORCH unless you wish to make it into the darwin awards. http://www.darwinawards.com/ Quote
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