More trinity/cheetah questions

[01bansheeke]

I am looking into getting some cheetah cylinders. Is there anyone else that sells them besides trinity? With there rep going around, its hard for me to spend a few g's and take a risk of wasting it.

 

Another question, what usually comes in there kits? Do the reeds come with it?

 

Also, if i got the 400..could i add a crank later? Where does the displacement come from between the 421 and the 485. i see it uses a stroker crank, but what other differences are there? What carb set-up should i use for this?

 

Right now i'm looking at the 400...if and only if i can upgrade it with a stroker crank later. Thanks in advance!

Edited December 4, 2004 by 01bansheeke

[Big Blue]

There are alot of motor builders that sell them Patriot for one im sure there are others a&s, k&t maybey. you could always buy one from trinity unported and send it somewhere also.

[broke]

There are alot of motor builders that sell them Patriot for one im sure there are others a&s, k&t maybey. you could always buy one from trinity unported and send it somewhere also.

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That is true, but let a reputable builder make whatever profit Trinity would make. There are quite a few people that build good motors and have great customer service, Trinity seems to be OK with not making the list.

 

Patriot gets my vote, great customer service and great motor. I have not dealt with any of the others so maybe soemone else can comment.

[00BANSHEE]

01bansheeke, where are you located at. There are a number of reputable builders all over that can sell you the cheetah cylinders all setup and ready to go.

[Fireman-hott]

There are quite a few people that build good motors and have great customer service, Trinity seems to be OK with not making the list.

 

What the customer service list? In the end broke wether you wanna admit it or not customer service does not make the banshee go faster.

You think they have poor customer service for a reason? I dont know say being swamped with orders because of thier reputation for building a good motor and having ungodly amounts of R&D time on shee motors. Quit letting customer service make your decisions. If you want a motor thats gonna go fast period and can sacrifice getting phone calls from them when they recieve your payment or when they ship it when thier porting it etc go with trinity you will not be disappointed PERIOD.

 

Everyone said the 12 port job from passion was "the shit" "its gonna stomp all other porting" Now look, its for SHIT, but they have good customer service.

[RNBRAD]

There are quite a few people that build good motors and have great customer service, Trinity seems to be OK with not making the list.

 

What the customer service list? In the end broke wether you wanna admit it or not customer service does not make the banshee go faster.

You think they have poor customer service for a reason? I dont know say being swamped with orders because of thier reputation for building a good motor and having ungodly amounts of R&D time on shee motors. Quit letting customer service make your decisions. If you want a motor thats gonna go fast period and can sacrifice getting phone calls from them when they recieve your payment or when they ship it when thier porting it etc go with trinity you will not be disappointed PERIOD.

 

Everyone said the 12 port job from passion was "the shit" "its gonna stomp all other porting" Now look, its for SHIT, but they have good customer service.

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What he said.

I've always said a poor waitress doesn't make the food taste bad.

[01bansheeke]

bad customer service makes me not want to do business with them. thats just me. I like to spend my money with people who WANT my business. I have personal friends around here that have been screwed by trinity.

 

I am located in the kansas city area. The only builder i really know of around here is jeff wendorf/fast racing. I have seen his stuff run and know it hauls ass. I don't know if he sells cheetah cylinders though.

 

ANyone else have answers for my other questions?

[Meat_Head]

I am looking into getting some cheetah cylinders. Is there anyone else that sells them besides trinity?  With there rep going around, its hard for me to spend a few g's and take a risk of wasting it. 

 

Another question, what usually comes in there kits?  Do the reeds come with it?

 

Also, if i got the 400..could i add a crank later?  Where does the displacement come from between the 421 and the 485. i see it uses a stroker crank, but what other differences are there?  What carb set-up should i use for this? 

 

Right now i'm looking at the 400...if and only if i can upgrade it with a stroker crank later.  Thanks in advance!

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The kit is a complete top end.You may be able to add a 4mm crank later on if the porting on the 400cc set wasnt to extreme to begin with.Both the 421cc and 485cc kits use 4mm stroker cranks the 421 uses 68mm pistons the 485 uses 73mm pistons.As for the carbs it depends on what you intend to do with this engine.

[RNBRAD]

Well my personal experience with Trinity and their customer service was excellent. No they didn't call me when the recieved my cylinders nor did they call me when it was done. I had a lengthy discussion about my porting and other mods, riding style and what I expected. They told me the mods that would best benefit my style of riding and thier porting. I received the juggs on my door step exactly 2 wks and 3 days. My first conversation they told me turnaround was about 2 wks. So actually pretty good compared to how long other porters are taking. Another thing I was very impressed about was the tuning of the motor. They also told what main, piolt and needle to use when tuning, it was spot on down to the clip position. So basically I didn't have to tune it at all. That to me says a lot on how many motors they build they know exactly how to tune them. This tells me their reproduceability in porting and engine mods is spot on, no variables here. Maybe this was just my experience but a good one nontheless.

 

I did call once during the process and they told me exactly when my juggs would be done, though if you expect to have your butt kissed every step of the way you may want to look elsewhere. If you want a kickass motor from a company that won't leave you guessing at tuning with proven reliability, then Trinity can make it happen. My 2 cents, take it or leave it.

[broke]

I in no way want to argue with anyone about Trinity. All I am saying is you can get the same motor if not maybe better from a builder other than Trinity. You can defend Trinity all you want, I'm glad you got a good motor from them, I really am.

 

 

What the customer service list?

 

You don't really think there is such a list, do you? I'm not really going to go into that too much, but Trinity MUST know they do not have a good reputation for customer service, and because of the rather large checks they write Dirt Wheels for advertising, they don't much care because there will be a whole line of uninformed buyers that can't wait to throw a bunch of money there way to build a motor. My question to you would be how many people that have bought a motor from them would buy a second motor from them? You might be surprised with the answer, but what do I know?

 

Everyone said the 12 port job from passion was "the shit" "its gonna stomp all other porting" Now look, its for SHIT, but they have good customer service.

 

While I will completely agree with you here, there seems to be two different groups when it comes to that motor. Loco and some others had no luck getting theirs to run, but other like Blueduece, Proquad, Jinx and others love theirs. That may just come down to not ordering the right motor for the riding style.

 

You think they have poor customer service for a reason?

 

While I can't comment on Trinity, I can say that the man that ported my cylinders is a very busy man, I had to make an appointment several months in advance to get him to do the work for me. He kept me updated every step of the way, even answering most of my emails in the middle of the night.

 

 

If you think a builder being able to set up jetting for their motors is rare, most good builders should be able to get your jetting within a workable ballpark.

 

I don't want anybody to take any of this personally, this is my opinion and my opinion alone. I hope 01bansheeke listens to what "everyone" here has to say and makes his own decision. You have every right to feel and say everything you said in these posts, but don't jump down my throat for having a different view on a builder as you.

[Leadfoot350]

If you want to stroke it later you will most likely not be able to do it unless you have a clean up port. Get what you want the first time around so you only pay for porting once.

[01bansheeke]

why would i have to report the motor if i switched to a stroker crank?

[Mike's Shee]

 

I am located in the kansas city area. The only builder i really know of around here is jeff wendorf/fast racing. I have seen his stuff run and know it hauls ass. I don't know if he sells cheetah cylinders though.

 

What part of KC are you at? Where is Fast Racing? I'm from Blue Springs, MO and are needing to find a good place to have things done to my Banshee.

[bansheebrat]

Everyone said the 12 port job from passion was "the shit" "its gonna stomp all other porting" Now look, its for SHIT, but they have good customer service.

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Dude, you obviously have not rode one. That motor will stomp the shit out of just about anything that you line up

[00BANSHEE]

 

I am located in the kansas city area. The only builder i really know of around here is jeff wendorf/fast racing. I have seen his stuff run and know it hauls ass. I don't know if he sells cheetah cylinders though.

 

What part of KC are you at? Where is Fast Racing? I'm from Blue Springs, MO and are needing to find a good place to have things done to my Banshee.

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F.A.S.T. Racing is located in Holton, KS a few miles north of Topeka. Jeff is a good person and has helped me out plenty. His motors are some of the fastest down at Little Sahara in OK. Give him a call 785-364-5325 and tell him 00banshee sent you over. He'll take real good care of you.