I WANT TO KILL THIS GUY!

[patrolman808]

"I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

 

 

 

[dogboystoy]

Turbo, man I think you are getting to hyped up about another mans opinion. It is exactly that" Boons opinion", nothing you can say will change the way another man looks at a situation. And for you to try and bash him for it, is just going to start a fight, if you are trying to start a fight then I do not believe you should even own a firearm let alone carry a concealed handgun.

End of story.

[TurbochargedOne]

Turbo, man I think you are getting to hyped up about another mans opinion. It is exactly that" Boons opinion", nothing you can say will change the way another man looks at a situation. And for you to try and bash him for it, is just going to start a fight, if you are trying to start a fight then I do not believe you should even own a firearm let alone carry a concealed handgun.

End of story.

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I'm bashing him?? Umm, I think you read right over the part where he called me a pussy. HE started with ME. HE bashed ME for MY opinion on how to handle the situation in the video. Dude, get with the program.

 

Ever have to take a mans life to defend your own? Having to take a persons life in order to save your own is NOT something that is taken lightly. Nor is someones judgemental attitude towards a person who has had to do exactly that. It's my responsibility to be able to take care of myself and my 2 year old son. Now, for someone to call me a pussy because I carry a gun for self defense is out of line. Again, I was the one who got bashed...not the other way around.

 

You don't know me. You pass judgement that I shouldn't be allowed to own guns based on one post on an internet discussion board (that you got ass-backwards mind you)? I passed a federal and state background check in order to be permitted to carry a gun. Forgive me, but I think that carries a little more weight than your idea of passing judgement based on a post on the Banshee HQ forums.

 

"End of Story"

Edited November 15, 2004 by TurbochargedOne

[TurbochargedOne]

BTW, take a look at the other posts in this thread. It seems the general concensus is that a skateboard to the head is indeed considered assault with a deadly weapon. Notice that one member that is a police officer also agrees with this. For me to be called a pussy over my majority opinion is out of line. If he doesn't carry a gun, fine. that's his choice. I didn't bash him for that. Again, he bashed me because I DO carry a gun. Not only is thinking only a gun or knife is a deadly weapon ignorant, but it's also ignorant to think that the only people in this country that lawfully carry guns are law enforcement officers.

Edited November 15, 2004 by TurbochargedOne

[TurbochargedOne]

I don't give a fuck where you are.

Edited November 15, 2004 by TurbochargedOne

[banshee04le]

What the hell? If someone breaks into your house

or something, by all means shoot the fu@ker but if some drunk dude

with a stick (or skateboard) wants to kick your ass, fight like a man.

If the other person doesn't have a gun or a knife...kick his ass if you can.

I would rather loose a hand to hand combat fight and take my ass whoopin

than to kill someone because I'm too scared to fight fare.

You would shoot somebody wielding a skateboard?

Have you ever seen the video of the cop who pulled over that guy

in the truck and searched it ...the guy was crawling around in the bed

of his cluttered pickup showing the cop what he had back there and the

cop noticed that the guy kept shuffling this bag around that was laying

back there like it was nothing. The cop pointed it out and asked the guy

what was in the bag. The bag was full of coke and the guy new he was

busted and turned on the cop. The cop scuffled with this guy for a LONG

time and the guy kept trying to get the cops gun. The cop could of shot

him but he didn't. That cop was a bad motherfucker. Any cop could of

shot the guy...and I actually think he should have been shot.

My point is that every pussy shouldn't have a gun because he might use it

just because he is scared. By the way, did you say earlier that you

had to kill someone to defend yourself? If so, what weapon did your

assailant posess?

[TurbochargedOne]

I am officially wasting my time discussing this.

 

Guys, of course you don't just shoot someone. You do everything possible NOT to draw your firearm. I always have the option to RUN. No, I will NOT square off with some moron just to prove i'm a man when there is the possibility of that fight escalating to something much bigger AND possibly losing my own gun to him in a immature fist fight. Who the hell said you HAVE to stick around in the first place? Common sense, guys.

 

HOWEVER, if i'm hit in the head with an object like a skateboard, DAMN RIGHT the guy WILL know I am going to defend myself. If that means just brandishing, then fine. 99 times out of 100, just pulling up the cover garment will make the guy turn tail and run like hell. If he continues to advance, well, then he deserves what comes next. Like I said, though, my first thought would be to get the hell out of there. No one in their right mind wants to take someones life. NO ONE.

 

Also, what a cop does is NOT what an armed citizen does. It's a law enforcement officers job to serve and protect. It's not my job to get into a tussle with some drunka nd roll around in the grass in hopes he doesn't get my gun. It's my job to GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE if I can. Comparing what a cop would do in a situation with what an armed citizen would do is night and day.

 

BTW, i'm not going to go into detail about what happened. For one, it's not ethical and two, people involved in such things just don't do that. What you know from this thread is enough.

[Lee]

Moved to the Roosting Room

 

We're all members here & will have a difference of opinion.

I won't make the judgment call on who bashed who, or whatever, but since it turned into a pissing match, I've gotta move it....

[locogato11283]

its gettin hot in hurrrrr...

[TurbochargedOne]

Moved to the Roosting Room

 

We're all members here & will have a difference of opinion.

I won't make the judgment call on who bashed who, or whatever, but since it turned into a pissing match, I've gotta move it....

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Never intended it to turn into a pissing match. I know better than to discuss guns on a non-gun board, too. But, I never though i'd be called a pussy, either.

 

Doesn't matter. I said my peace.You either get it or not. If you do, then great. If not, then you probably never will (unless, of course, you find yourself in a situation where you need a gun and don't have one). Unfortunately, some people need to learn the hard way.

 

Anyway, if anyone is interested in learning about the training and classes some citizens take, take a look in the tactics and Training forum over at www.glocktalk.com. The moderator of that forum runs a school for this very thing. Lots of good info. I'm also a moderator there.

[01bansheeke]

mmmm buicks

[dogboystoy]

Well, Turbo, I do not see anywhere in boons post of him refering to YOU specifically.

As far as the skateboard being considered a deadly weapon.. I agree, that mannor it was used in, I would consider it an act of hoistility with a deadly weapon.

But, the fact that you were freaking out over a discussion, gives me the right to believe that you should not possess a firearm. The way you were acting makes me think that you would pull out your gun during a heated discussion with someone. After reading your follow up post, I do think you may have some common sense, but the initial reaction,,, well,, seemed a bit hostile for someone carrying a gun. I am sure that the forms that you filled out and the classes you took actually defined your personality to the authorities and said "hey this is a good guy", lets let him carry a gun and bullets so he can use it whenever he feels like it. Did you take an MMPI? Because I have, and if you have your wits about you then anyone can pass them. Jeeze I even passed one.

And as far as feeling the need to protect my family (yes I also have children), Sure I may decide to get a permit to carry a handgun one day, (not that I would carry one all of the time) but I dont live in an area that warrants me needing that sort of protection on a continuous basis.

I have a question for you.. Are you living or working in an area that makes you feel like you need to be protected all of the time? I mean if you work in the Pittsburgh ghetto I could definitely understand or even relate to feeling the need for protection. But if you live in a rural area that has little crime (compared to the city), what makes you feel that you need this protection with you all of the time? I am trying to understand why someone feels the need to carry a handgun with them all of the time (other than a cop).

Other than that I have no issue with you, You are entitled you your right to speak your mind.

Edited November 16, 2004 by dogboystoy

[TurbochargedOne]

I was the one who mentioned firearms. he was refering to me and you know it.

 

I'll say it again, go through something like having to defend your life and then have someone call you a pussy for doing it. It's the hardest thing you could ever do in life and it will haunt you for a very long time, my friend. You're damn right that rubs me the wrong way. You're damn right I will snap back at that person. And until you have to go thorugh it, don't you dare judge me by my reaction. I don't need your approval to carry a gun. I carry one because it's my responsibilty. I don't live in a "bad neighborhood, yet I still needed a gun 3 times in my life. To think bad things only happen in bad places is just as ignorant as saying carrying a gun is for pussies. I'm astonished at the lack of common sense by some people. I wear my seat belt all the time, look both ways before crossing the street all the time and carry a spare tire all the time. And, yes, I carry a gun all the time. Better to have all those things and never need them then to need one of them and not have it. COMMON SENSE.

 

Once again, you don't know me. You can't make a assumption like I shouldn't own guns by a post on a discussion board.

 

have a nice day.

[banshee04le]

don't you dare judge me by my reaction. I don't need your approval to carry a gun. I carry one because it's my responsibilty. I don't live in a "bad neighborhood, yet I still needed a gun 3 times in my life.

 

Not don't judge me...or you shouldn't judge me...don't you DARE

judge me . It's your resposibiliity? Will you disclose the

circumstances of the other 2 times that you have "needed" a gun?

If not I will just have to assume that your mouth may have got you

in trouble and you brandished your gun so you didn't get your ass

kicked. I do work in the hood. The worst part of North St. Louis,

an area with the highest crime rate in the nation, at least it was a

year or so ago. I've worked over there for 10yrs and been alive

for 33yrs and I have never yet "needed" a gun. How old are you and

how is it that you have "needed" one 3 times. I'm really curious

as to that.

[dogboystoy]

don't you dare judge me by my reaction. I don't need your approval to carry a gun. I carry one because it's my responsibilty. I don't live in a "bad neighborhood, yet I still needed a gun 3 times in my life.

 

Not don't judge me...or you shouldn't judge me...don't you DARE

judge me . It's your resposibiliity? Will you disclose the

circumstances of the other 2 times that you have "needed" a gun?

If not I will just have to assume that your mouth may have got you

in trouble and you brandished your gun so you didn't get your ass

kicked. I do work in the hood. The worst part of North St. Louis,

an area with the highest crime rate in the nation, at least it was a

year or so ago. I've worked over there for 10yrs and been alive

for 33yrs and I have never yet "needed" a gun. How old are you and

how is it that you have "needed" one 3 times. I'm really curious

as to that.

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Question, I was in east st louis a while back and I thought that was the worst, I thought that was the highest crime rate area. The National guard unit there had bullett holes in the armory outside walls. Never been to North St. Louis though.