Hockey390 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Posted May 20, 2004 if you havent seen it... take a look http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?...t=0#entry215307 I took the pipes off and out came about 1/2 gallon of blackened gas from each pipe... (my guess is black from all the fumes) Top end is off, now i gotta take the pistons off... Can't figure it out. Here is a picture of my jugs, tell me what you think.. By running my finger over that "color change" you see, there is absolutly no grove or ridge...feels totally flat, but who knows...the amount it may be off is less then the eye can see Here are what the tops of my pistons look like. There is a number on them.. I think it says A5902 i THINK, maybe A5982, or there could be something before the A...its hard to tell, i scraped off the crap to try and read it, but some just wouldnt come off.. Will post in another topic.. but I need to know how to remove the pistons. Quote
white trash Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 I would just like to point out that you noted that you did a compression test and came up wth 100/ 80, then the next time you mentioned it it was arond 90 on both, then it went to 100 on both, then 110. Dude wtf??? get your shit straight Quote
cb67rs1 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 if you had all that shit in your pipes in probably in the crank case too, there for fauling the plugs and preventing it from starting. you probably could have got it started if you took all that out and cleaned it. Quote
Hockey390 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Posted May 20, 2004 The reason the compression test was crap is because I got a cheapo tester... The final result was apprx 110-120 on both. this was with a GOOD tester from a shop (one that screws in) mine was the little rubber plug thing. As for the gas/oil/whatever it is... I poured it out of the pipes... i then put it all back on and tried to kick.. it SOUNDED alot better (notice in my posts ive talked about how it doesnt sound right) However it wouldnt fire.. I didnt try getting the fuel out of the crank case (there is alot) because I dont know how to get it all.. I was able to syphon out most of it, but I want it all out.. I am on a timely schedule today, so i need to move fast to get this together try it, if it doesnt work back apart, and take it to the shop before 3 PM est, its 9:15 am now how can I get the excess fuel out? Any tips??? Quote
rebelbanshee2 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 looks like alot of blow by on that one piston. the cylinder wall doesnt look that good either. to take the pistons off first put rags in the opening of the case!!! you dont want something falling in there! there are little clips in the hole for the wrist pin. i use a little screw flat head screw driver to work the out. you only need to take one off each piston. then slide the wrist pin out of the piston and the piston comes out. You dont have a clymer do you?? trust me and go buy one. Quote
Hockey390 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Posted May 20, 2004 I got the CD one...but its too damn hard to find what I need in it :-( I will invest. Quote
Banchetta Posted May 23, 2004 Report Posted May 23, 2004 Looks like you had either a cold siezure or a lack of oil w/ the gas....I'd guess a cold siezure... Quote
banshee76179 Posted May 23, 2004 Report Posted May 23, 2004 (edited) Looks like you had either a cold siezure or a lack of oil w/ the gas....I'd guess a cold siezure... yep Edited May 23, 2004 by banshee76179 Quote
DirtRider Posted May 23, 2004 Report Posted May 23, 2004 have you goten your clymers yet? you need a tourque wrench to tighten everything own when your get your kit. get the clymer, solid investment there. when it comes to trouble shooting read a repair manual and check (everything) tire pressure no ripes in the seat handlebars are tighend down properly. just go allout and check everyhitng. its really basic. in the end if you still dont get it. read your clymer. Quote
DirtRider Posted May 23, 2004 Report Posted May 23, 2004 oh yeag iu forgot to mention, dont getup set. its a sin to get upset. you will fall from grace and get really agitated and think crazy thoughts, like selling your banshee Quote
Hockey390 Posted May 23, 2004 Author Report Posted May 23, 2004 lol, my banshee will be remaining in my possesion... My clymer should be here before my top end gets back. I will do my own 500 point inspection ;-) As far as the cold seizure, what is that??? Quote
Banchetta Posted May 24, 2004 Report Posted May 24, 2004 Its when you ride the piss out of it before its warmed up..The piston expands faster then the cylinder causing tight clearences and scoring the 4 corners of the cylinders and breaking rings.....a lot like what yours looks like... I've also seen lean oil mixtures do the same, but worse..... Quote
Hockey390 Posted May 24, 2004 Author Report Posted May 24, 2004 which would make sense why I started it up fine, let it run at idle for a few mins, gave it some gas, then shut her down. next day wouldnt start.. So thats a cold seizure.. Note to self, do not rev for (5 mins? 10 mins?) How long should I let it sit before I start giving it more then a LITTLE gas? I talked with the shop doing my top end work.. they said my left cylinder was 10 over, and the right was 20 over.. Just thougth i would mention that to you all, never knew you could do that, SAFELY.. I'm going up to 40 over, as well as the porting Quote
rebelbanshee2 Posted May 24, 2004 Report Posted May 24, 2004 I wait until my head is quite hot to the touch, kinda when it is uncomfortable to leave you hand on it for more than a second Quote
Banchetta Posted May 24, 2004 Report Posted May 24, 2004 I ride mine easily for 5 minutes before I open it up. ONe of the reasons why I like the cast pistons better than forged. The cast pistons heat up at the same rate as the cylinders where the forged heat up faster. There is a good chance you had forged pistons in there like Wiesco.. Quote
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