Larry's Shee Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I'll start with how it was when my son and I bought it. Decent condition overall. Cool head was off. "Spare" parts included two used pistons, one with rod sized hole in it. Pulled cylinders, crank had one rod replaced, other is kind of sloppy. Blown side had thin repair sleeve installed, 64mm. Other cylinder had 64mm piston in larger hoe (65?). Head had 18cc domes. I can tell by crown that it wasn't run much. Original pistons were Vito's S Stock, new are Wiseco. So, I can either get it running as cheap as possible, or go all in with Driveline cylinders, ext. It probably won't be ridden much due to my health. So, ideas on how to proceed. I have thick skin so asshole comments will just bounce back to you X2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Id say the only ideas that you need are how much you are willing to spend without it hurting your feelers. Driveline is local to you (lapeer to ortonville) so obviously you can just take all the stuff to lane and he can fix it up for you. If your saying that you wont ride it much and its just gunna sit me personally, I would go the cheaper route. Sounds like either way your gunna have to split the cases and have the crank touched up, bored cylinders and pistons and domes. bore- $100 Pistons- $180 Domes- $55 crank rebuild and weld- 150 is a guess? Your close to 500 there or spend 800 for the 392 and the cost to have lane nurse your crank back to health so 500ish or 800+ ish (assuming the guts of the engine are all good to go) Edited January 26, 2018 by Ayesully810 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 If you're not going to be riding it a bunch, then just get it running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted January 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 How the fuck you know I'm in Lapeer? Where're you? Spent the first 50 years in Orkskaville. Obviously who ever worked on it had less than no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusto Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Larry, I’m going to be tearing down an engine in the next couple of days. Stock bore I’ve been told with stock head. If you would be interested PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 sell the heap and get a boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted January 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, registered user said: sell the heap and get a boat Break Out Another Thousand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2otoofast4u Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 sell the heap and get a boat^^^^ smartest thing he has ever said.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Bc u pmd me like over a year ago and told me u lived in lapeerSent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted January 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Ayesully810 said: Bc u pmd me like over a year ago and told me u lived in lapeer Sent from my LGMS210 using Tapatalk At my age I can use the excuse of forgetting shit. Fuck, what did I have for breakfast............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 9:57 PM, Ayesully810 said: Id say the only ideas that you need are how much you are willing to spend without it hurting your feelers. Driveline is local to you (lapeer to ortonville) so obviously you can just take all the stuff to lane and he can fix it up for you. If your saying that you wont ride it much and its just gunna sit me personally, I would go the cheaper route. Sounds like either way your gunna have to split the cases and have the crank touched up, bored cylinders and pistons and domes. bore- $100 Pistons- $180 Domes- $55 crank rebuild and weld- 150 is a guess? Your close to 500 there or spend 800 for the 392 and the cost to have lane nurse your crank back to health so 500ish or 800+ ish (assuming the guts of the engine are all good to go) I don't think I can bore the cylinder because of the repair sleeve in left cylinder. It's pretty thin and who knows what's underneath. The crank is sketchy at best. No way to know if any bearings were replaced. Could have gotten debris from broken rod, cylinder gouging. Should do like P.O. should have done. Junk the crank, maybe cylinder too. After seeing some pics of rod damaged cases, don't think I will trust crank as is. By the time I fixed it, could have probably bought new. Prior to Jan 20 I could have applied a Presidential Solution'. Guess I'll fix correctly, but still as economically as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Larry's Shee said: I don't think I can bore the cylinder because of the repair sleeve in left cylinder. It's pretty thin and who knows what's underneath. The crank is sketchy at best. No way to know if any bearings were replaced. Could have gotten debris from broken rod, cylinder gouging. Should do like P.O. should have done. Junk the crank, maybe cylinder too. After seeing some pics of rod damaged cases, don't think I will trust crank as is. By the time I fixed it, could have probably bought new. Prior to Jan 20 I could have applied a Presidential Solution'. Guess I'll fix correctly, but still as economically as possible. wait, so is the motor apart right now or what? is the whole thing just in scraps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Head was off when we got it. I took cylinders off because I knew from the hole in one "spare" piston it had blown a rod. I could tell by two different color rods that it had been "repaired" , not replaced. The cylinder that blew had a repair sleeve installed, it's maybe.040-.060 thick. The non blown cylinder has a brand new 64mm piston in a hole that is bigger than 64mm. Betweenthe loose piston and 18cc domes with probably pump gas I'm sure it probably rattled like a MF. I could get a piston the right size for the larger hole, but I'm pretty sure that the Pistons being different size/weight the engine would probably shake itself to death in no time. The more I think about it I realize there is no way around fixing it right if I want to reliably ride it other than in the yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 IMO the crank should at least be broken down and gone through, nothing hurts more than erasing everything you did with a bad crank component. Then get a cheap set of stockers for$150 and put some pistons in. Then you have a solid piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdgriff Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 IMO the crank should at least be broken down and gone through, nothing hurts more than erasing everything you did with a bad crank component. Then get a cheap set of stockers for$150 and put some pistons in. Then you have a solid piece. This ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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