muggzy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Hey guys, I'm in the middle of converting my stock swingarm to a stocklength Lonestar swingarm with double-row round house style bearing carrier. I got this TM Designworks chain guide rt with a single roller and put it on the swinger. My concern is the height of the roller relative to the sprocket (41T). The location means the chain is going to have to go through a serious path disruption (sort of like a chain tensioner). Is this right ? I know TMD makes top notch stuff but how long should i expect this roller to hold up if this is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurdy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 That definately doesn't look right. I have a TM design on mine and there is no interuption of the chain path off the sprocket (41T). It looks like the wrong chain guide. Only difference is mine is only a slider, not the roller design. I also have 2 counter sunk screws along the bottom, not just one. Mine is lower and comes down on the front at closer to a 90 degree angle to the ground. What's your email and I can send you a picture. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) That definitely doesn't look right. I have a TM design on mine and there is no interuption of the chain path off the sprocket (41T). It looks like the wrong chain guide. Only difference is mine is only a slider, not the roller design. I also have 2 counter sunk screws along the bottom, not just one. Mine is lower and comes down on the front at closer to a 90 degree angle to the ground. What's your email and I can send you a picture. SP PM Sent. Yeah I spoke to someone at TMD and he assured me this was OK for the roller type guide. He hadn't seen a picture though and I'm not convinced. I like their stuff, it's top notch but looking at the turn the chain's gonna have to take passing through the roller is not sitting right with me. The mount on the swingarm is definitely not bent, but it looks like there's quite a lot of room to make that roller lower. Has anyone else tried these rollers before? Edited January 10, 2012 by muggzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 PM Sent. Yeah I spoke to someone at TMD and he assured me this was OK for the roller type guide. He hadn't seen a picture though and I'm not convinced. I like their stuff, it's top notch but looking at the turn the chain's gonna have to take passing through the roller is not sitting right with me. The mount on the swingarm is definitely not bent, but it looks like there's quite a lot of room to make that roller lower. Has anyone else tried these rollers before? Thanks for that pic Spurdy. Yeah that's how I'd expect the slider version to look/work and I can understand some deflection using a roller - after all, they are round and not flat, but this just looks too extreme. Anyone have experience with this chain guide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Here's the web page. It does say for banshee and aftermarket swingers with standard banshee spacing... http://www.tmdesignworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_184&products_id=333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurdy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Here's the web page. It does say for banshee and aftermarket swingers with standard banshee spacing... http://www.tmdesignw...products_id=333 Maybe he is right. I havea hard time to believe truely zero drag here but that looks like the part in you picture. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheesandrider Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't think the problem is with the guide, it is with the swingarm. I had a JP Racing swingarm, they got bought out by Lonestar about 18 years ago, and had the same problem with the guide mount on it. It was mounted to high and I had to modify the mount to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggzy Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I don't think the problem is with the guide, it is with the swingarm. I had a JP Racing swingarm, they got bought out by Lonestar about 18 years ago, and had the same problem with the guide mount on it. It was mounted to high and I had to modify the mount to make it work. Swing arm's good. I just put the old chain guide on this new swinger and it lines up perfectly. Exactly the way it did on the old swing arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 A little bit of a difference isn't going to matter, but that looks pretty drastic to me. Do you have any other type of slider available to try on it just to check to see if it's the swingarm or the slider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotax Raptor Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I wouldn't run it that way. Although its on the slack side of the sprocket, that's to much of an angle. Its not a tentioner, its a guide. Call TM and ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90lxsleeper Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I had the same questions when i oredered mine like that from,them but have rode on it for about 3 months and had no problems.The reason it is so short is because the chain guide roller design is to be used for swingarms that are running a skid plate,the other design with two rollers is designed to be used without a skid plate. Here is the link to explain..... http://www.tmdesignworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_184&products_id=333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Chad Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I got one. I don't see the problem in the pic.. ur not thinking of putting the chain between the mount and roller are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurdy Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I got one. I don't see the problem in the pic.. ur not thinking of putting the chain between the mount and roller are you? So you're saying the chain path is under the roller not overthe roller? That isn't the chain path on mine but I have an older style that is a slider. SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I got one. I don't see the problem in the pic.. ur not thinking of putting the chain between the mount and roller are you? The chain should go over the roller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Chad Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 The chain should go over the roller. Your right.. just looked at mine. Heres a couple pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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