2K1Banshee350 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 i dont drag race competetivly, so my question is whether it be in the dunes or paved strips, has any new 4 stroke beaten some of the fastest banshees out there? have they beat any banshee records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bada450r Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 i dont drag race competetivly, so my question is whether it be in the dunes or paved strips, has any new 4 stroke beaten some of the fastest banshees out there? have they beat any banshee records? banshee will be king for a long time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I dont know about fastest, but there are raptors running around now that will give a small block, big block, and even a cheetah motor a run for its money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2K1Banshee350 Posted September 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I dont know about fastest, but there are raptors running around now that will give a small block, big block, and even a cheetah motor a run for its money. are those big bore 700s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I haven't seen too many 700's, most have been 660 based engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2K1Banshee350 Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I haven't seen too many 700's, most have been 660 based engines. i have heard the 660s still have the 700s once modified for dragging, so i can believe that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopczynski Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 They are going to need to overcome the adaptation of the fuel injection before they get the 700's to be as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Are they beating some of the fastest banshees out there? Not even close. Depends on what you mean as a "banshee". Banshee based motor? Not even close. If you're talking stock type bikes, like piped, jetted, ported...yep, give them a run for then money and sometimes beat them. But once you get into aftermarket cylinders, stroker crank shafts, etc...the 4 strokes are still a long ways behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee98 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 the only advantage the 4 pokes have is the ability to "easily" drop a turbo into them... it takes one hell of good engine guy to get a turbo to work well with a 2 stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroking Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Are they beating some of the fastest banshees out there? Not even close. Depends on what you mean as a "banshee". Banshee based motor? Not even close. If you're talking stock type bikes, like piped, jetted, ported...yep, give them a run for then money and sometimes beat them. But once you get into aftermarket cylinders, stroker crank shafts, etc...the 4 strokes are still a long ways behind. only thing i can say to you is you have not run against the right 4 stroke yet a 700 raptor will EAT a 10mil banshee if its built right......any banhees smaller and its not even close. some 700's have more tq that a banshee got hp there is a 115hp/80fttq raptor running around thats not even fully tuned in yet.......it would take a 10mil or bigger banshee to pull that kind of power. just info. hell my 470 trx will give a stock cylinder 4mil a DAMN GOOD run! Edited September 10, 2009 by stroking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Just tell me what kind of numbers it runs in 300 foot sand.Considering since the fastest bikes at PS single cylinder 4 stroke unlimited ran 3.8 or 3.9 and the fastest in the 0-475 cc LIMITED (No NOS or Turbo) run 3.7s...I'd like to see that statement contradicted.I'm not talking about 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, etc.Planet Sand's events are the biggest stage for 300 foot of sand racing year after year.And I would bet that Raptor has nitro/turbo or a combo of both.A 10 mil banshee on methanol (cub cylinder, 68 bore) will put out 120 to 125HP all day long, probably 10 or so less torque.Easily, cheaply and reliably.And that's 465 cc's compared to over 700.Take a 10 mil DM which goes up to a 78 bore, won't even be close....Now, of course I'm talking aftermarket cylinders without turbos, nitro, etc. Just methanol.Put a large caracal, scimitar or large twister motor in compariable cc's (700 to 800) and that raptor will never, ever even be on the same track. Untuned or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajogejr Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Sorry about the formatting. I wrote the post in Firefox. Went to edit it...it doesn't work. I edited it in Internet explorer and got all the line breaks ( the <B>) in there...sorry if that's hard to read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragbanshee98 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Just tell me what kind of numbers it runs in 300 foot sand.<BR>Considering since the fastest bikes at PS single cylinder 4 stroke unlimited ran 3.8 or 3.9 and the fastest in the 0-475 cc LIMITED (No NOS or Turbo) run 3.7s...I'd like to see that statement contradicted.<BR><BR>I'm not talking about 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, etc.<BR><BR>Planet Sand's events are the biggest stage for 300 foot of sand racing year after year.<BR><BR>And I would bet that Raptor has nitro/turbo or a combo of both.<BR><BR>A 10 mil banshee on methanol (cub cylinder, 68 bore) will put out 120 to 125HP all day long, probably 10 or so less torque.<BR>Easily, cheaply and reliably.<BR>And that's 465 cc's compared to over 700.<BR><BR>Take a 10 mil DM which goes up to a 78 bore, won't even be close....<BR><BR>Now, of course I'm talking aftermarket cylinders without turbos, nitro, etc. Just methanol. <BR><BR><BR>Put a large caracal, scimitar or large twister motor in compariable cc's (700 to 800) and that raptor will never, ever even be on the same track. Untuned or not. x2 on that! the 2 strokes are by far the fastest things around today, and will be for a long time... until someone starts to really tweak with V twins and make them into some huge numbers, cause a single lung is at a disadvantage compared to a equal cc and equally setup twin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Sorry about the formatting. I wrote the post in Firefox. Went to edit it...it doesn't work. I edited it in Internet explorer and got all the line breaks ( the <B>) in there...sorry if that's hard to read! dave, i edited your post in firefox and took out the crap. it worked fine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 yeah.. I'll agree.. Its gonna take one MONSTER built raptor to keep up with a average 10mil cub on alky. Numbers dont lie. Post some track times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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