I never really rode another cub, mine has alot of extensive porting (358ccversion )and i can say utilizing the stock swinger on one is downright freightening and makes the rider have to let off or loop-outs are inevitable ,i have to lean way over the bars to barely stay planted. it is hard and tireing to ride like this and realisticly mine spends most of its time o n one back wheel .. if your into wheelys the cub is not for you , the wheelys the cub produces arent the managable 400ex type wheelys you may be accustomed to ,you hear the rpms build fast ,the tone of the exhaust deepens ,it comes on the pipe ...the next thing you know ,your watching your bike cruising 30 feet in front of you ,while your on the ground brushing off your ass .cubs are drag motors