JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 Ok, I'm brand new to this site cuz I just got a Banshee last week. Here is my problem. The 2000 Banshee is stock other than FMF gold series fattys and a boost/crossover bottle. The person who I bought it from told me that it ran fine before being stored for 3 years. So now I got it and it idles fine but as soon as you try to rev it bogs and misses. If I put it in gear and try to roll on the clutch a little it seems to want to pick up a bit it still will not go past idle as soon as I pull the clutch in again. It had stock carbs with TORS and 260 jets. I pulled them off and bought new/used carbs with the TORS removal kit off ebay. Before installing, I completely took apart and cleaned the carbs. Also visually inspected but did NOT remove reeds. Did not seem to have cracks and still had flex but can't be certain if they are 100%. Installed carbs with 200 jets and needle in center position. It acted EXACTLY the same as the other carbs. So now what guru's? Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!! Jasin Quote
Dinner Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 Ok, I'm brand new to this site cuz I just got a Banshee last week. Here is my problem. The 2000 Banshee is stock other than FMF gold series fattys and a boost/crossover bottle. The person who I bought it from told me that it ran fine before being stored for 3 years. So now I got it and it idles fine but as soon as you try to rev it bogs and misses. If I put it in gear and try to roll on the clutch a little it seems to want to pick up a bit it still will not go past idle as soon as I pull the clutch in again. It had stock carbs with TORS and 260 jets. I pulled them off and bought new/used carbs with the TORS removal kit off ebay. Before installing, I completely took apart and cleaned the carbs. Also visually inspected but did NOT remove reeds. Did not seem to have cracks and still had flex but can't be certain if they are 100%. Installed carbs with 200 jets and needle in center position. It acted EXACTLY the same as the other carbs. So now what guru's? Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!! Jasin IMO 200 Main jets seem very very lean..specially with pipes. Unless you are way above sea level, those mains are way too small....What do your plugs look like from just idling? Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 IMO 200 Main jets seem very very lean..specially with pipes. Unless you are way above sea level, those mains are way too small....What do your plugs look like from just idling? Well like I said the jets before were 260s and it did the same. The plugs were wet. I am in Reno Nv which is about 4000 ft above sea level Quote
Screaming Yellow Zonker Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 sounds like the tors to me. did you unplug all the tors wire? there is a box next to the coil that you have to unplug. and there is a clutch and throttle switch. Quote
blueshee03 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 is the hose connecting the carbs in place and in good condition? replace it with a new one and try it. Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 sounds like the tors to me. did you unplug all the tors wire?there is a box next to the coil that you have to unplug. and there is a clutch and throttle switch. I am not sure if I disconnected the TORS completely. is there a walkthrough online somewhere? I removed the thumb throttle and replaced with twist throttle so I know that is disconnected. The wires that went to the thumb throttle are spliced together and the other ends that go to the carbs are disconnected. What else do i have to disconnect or connect? Thank you. Yes the hose that connects the two carbs seems to be alright but i replaced it to be sure. Quote
scooter6101982 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 disconnect the throttle wires and also check to see if the slides are in the right carbs u may have put the wrong slide in the wrong carb Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 disconnect the throttle wires and also check to see if the slides are in the right carbs u may have put the wrong slide in the wrong carb If I disconnect the throttle wires it won't even start. How do you know if the sliders are in the right carbs. Are they marked? Quote
scooter6101982 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 i dont think there marked look under ur gas tank mounted to the drame is the tors brain box disconnect it Quote
Michael Jackson Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) 200 main jets on a piped banshee?@!?! mine came stock with 220's at seal level Edited December 2, 2007 by Michael Jackson Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Report Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) 200 main jets on a piped banshee?@!?!mine came stock with 220's at seal level I disconnected the TORS box under the gas tank. Still no change. What is the small line between the carbs for? I thought it was just for the choke. Also has always been running extremely fat when you try to roll of idle even with 200 main jets. Super smoky and starting to drip fuel out of silencers. Fuel is fresh 91 pump gas with 40:1 yamalube. Could timing have anything to do with this and if so where/how do you adjust? Edited December 2, 2007 by JJBYZ4x4 Quote
Screaming Yellow Zonker Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 the tube between the carbs is a fuel en richening circuit. you need that tube. does it sound like a rev limiter at low rpm's aprox 2500??? or when you open it WOT does it make a louder bogging sound.... kinda like exhaust under water???? Quote
AJC Posted December 2, 2007 Report Posted December 2, 2007 take off the wire that goes to the park brake. push in on the button with your finger. and start her up. when the park brake is on she will not rev.. just bog/sputter but will stay running. when its off ( pushed in ) she will run fine. that sounds like the problem to me. try that and let us know. Quote
JJBYZ4x4 Posted December 3, 2007 Author Report Posted December 3, 2007 take off the wire that goes to the park brake.push in on the button with your finger. and start her up. when the park brake is on she will not rev.. just bog/sputter but will stay running. when its off ( pushed in ) she will run fine. that sounds like the problem to me. try that and let us know. You both sound exactly right. It stays running but will not rev and sounds like its underwater. I took off that switch and pushed it i but it does not change anything. Is that switch supposed to be open or closed to run? If i disconnect it, do I put the wires together, or leave them apart? Thats exactly what it sounds like though, a rev limiter so to speak. Maybe that switch is bad?!?!? Quote
AJC Posted December 3, 2007 Report Posted December 3, 2007 i just took mine off to try it. and yes it sounds like shes underwater. when the switch is closed ( pushed in ) she should run fine.. but im not sure about cutting the wires. i dont know anyone who has. can this be unplugged? ill take a loot at my shee and see what can be done..but im not cutting no wires :biggrin: Quote
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