doorslammer Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 hey ive heard of people running 100% concerntrate in their radiator and have also been told that its not good for the bike. is it a good idea, does it effect cooling and will it do any damage thanks Quote
blowit Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 hey ive heard of people running 100% concerntrate in their radiator and have also been told that its not good for the bike. is it a good idea, does it effect cooling and will it do any damage thanks Do not do that. Coolant in itself does not absorb heat as well as water. Listen---100% water absorbs heat better any day than 100% coolant or even 50/50 mix. Why do we use the stuff? simple, it lubricates, protects from freezing, and raises the boiling point of the fluid. The reason there are different ratios has to do with a certain level of protection from freeze or boiling, and nothing to do with the heat absorbtion. Now adays, there are additives like water wetter that are designed to optimize the heat absorbtion of water or should I say it does a little more absorbing than the water thus lowering operating temps. Brandon Quote
Ruko Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 hey ive heard of people running 100% concerntrate in their radiator and have also been told that its not good for the bike. is it a good idea, does it effect cooling and will it do any damage thanks It depends what you are using... if it's just the regular green stuff then no it's meant to be mixed... The new premix coolants are redish colored and they are meant to be used straight. They are just premixed to make them idiot proof... that way they can also charge you for half a jug of water. Engine Ice is also a premix, purpley blue colored... not only is it meant to be used straight but you are not suppose to mix it with any old coolant, so you need to flush your system with water first then drain it as much as possible before putting it in. I use it and have a water temp gauge.. it does cool better than regular coolant, but not the 50 degrees it claims. I saw about a 20 degree diference, definately worth it IMO. Quote
blowit Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 It depends what you are using... if it's just the regular green stuff then no it's meant to be mixed... The new premix coolants are redish colored and they are meant to be used straight. They are just premixed to make them idiot proof... that way they can also charge you for half a jug of water. Engine Ice is also a premix, purpley blue colored... not only is it meant to be used straight but you are not suppose to mix it with any old coolant, so you need to flush your system with water first then drain it as much as possible before putting it in. I use it and have a water temp gauge.. it does cool better than regular coolant, but not the 50 degrees it claims. I saw about a 20 degree diference, definately worth it IMO. Your a little off base on your coolants. Any color coolant can be concentrate or premixed. The Green stuff you are refering is typically Ethylene Glycol based and has been used for years and it what you would want to use in the banshee. The newer generation is Propylene Glycol based and is used in most OEM autos of today Like Gms Dex-cool. Dex can be purchased in premixed or concentrates. Anti-freeze can come in many colors but most are just different shades of red or green to identify the base product easier. It is not recommended to mix the two types either. There is another type called HOAT but I am not going into that. Buy the green stuff on concentrate and mix with deionized water and roll on. Brandon Quote
Ruko Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 Your a little off base on your coolants. Any color coolant can be concentrate or premixed. The Green stuff you are refering is typically Ethylene Glycol based and has been used for years and it what you would want to use in the banshee. The newer generation is Propylene Glycol based and is used in most OEM autos of today Like Gms Dex-cool. Dex can be purchased in premixed or concentrates. Anti-freeze can come in many colors but most are just different shades of red or green to identify the base product easier. It is not recommended to mix the two types either. There is another type called HOAT but I am not going into that. Buy the green stuff on concentrate and mix with deionized water and roll on. Brandon What ever man... I was just trying to keep it simple... besides what you said is pretty much just a more complicated version of what I said... :biggrin: anyway if you're not sure read the bottle it came out of and do what it says :thumbsup: Quote
BigRed350x Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 My cooling system runs on crushed cheeto's. Quote
doorslammer Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Posted July 14, 2007 My cooling system runs on crushed cheeto's. LOL... thanks for the help cause ive been told may stories about what i should and shouldnt do at least now i have a forum to back me up :beer: Quote
FireHead Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 Your a little off base on your coolants. Any color coolant can be concentrate or premixed. The Green stuff you are refering is typically Ethylene Glycol based and has been used for years and it what you would want to use in the banshee. The newer generation is Propylene Glycol based and is used in most OEM autos of today Like Gms Dex-cool. Dex can be purchased in premixed or concentrates. Anti-freeze can come in many colors but most are just different shades of red or green to identify the base product easier. It is not recommended to mix the two types either. There is another type called HOAT but I am not going into that. Buy the green stuff on concentrate and mix with deionized water and roll on. Brandon Word. I like to drink all of them. :ermm: Quote
blowit Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 LOL... thanks for the help cause ive been told may stories about what i should and shouldnt do at least now i have a forum to back me up :beer: There are a lot of back self certified engineers out there that will claim about anything at your expense. At least you are researching it before you do it. That shows initiative right there. The biggest thing to watch these days is the concentrate or premix thing. Many cos are screwing the public by pre-diluting the coolant. It is getting hard to find concentrate. Brandon Quote
FireHead Posted July 14, 2007 Report Posted July 14, 2007 There are a lot of back self certified engineers out there that will claim about anything at your expense. At least you are researching it before you do it. That shows initiative right there. The biggest thing to watch these days is the concentrate or premix thing. Many cos are screwing the public by pre-diluting the coolant. It is getting hard to find concentrate. Brandon These days I just use one of the several types we have at work. The are a PG type coolants design for class 8 trucks, but we have a programmable mixing system inline from the drums and DI water bottles. I generally use the one that smells like candy. I don't know why it smells like candy and I really only use it in one of the engines at work. I am not sure what the trade name for the coolant is. All of those coolants aimed at the HD truck market have failry misleading trade names. Quote
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