outerwears or filter wraps

[blowit]

OK, I thought since we have some sharp minds here I would try to get some help. We are trying to find alternative vendors for the polyester nylon mesh filter wraps. Outerwears is WAY to proud of their product but we do like it. We are looking for more economical solutions but would prefer to stay with the same base material. We are looking primarily for a manufacturer or a high volume wholesaler.

 

 

 

Brandon

Edited March 16, 2007 by blowit

[FireHead]

I can provide a slection of information regarding your problem. None of it is going to answer your qustion though, I am afraid.

 

It is porbably worth pointing out that the Outerwears are sort of a bandaid solution to keeping large particles (realtively speaking) of debris out of the filters in addition to providing a small measure of protection against liquids. With that said, everyone in the motorcycle/ATV world that run their vehicles without an airbox uses Outerwears (as do many other folks). The material that Outerwears are made of is actually used as a liquid straining (filtering) material in the food processing industry. With that said there are several places to buy the material in bulk, rather inexpensively. My company has been known to use this material to make our own pre-filters from time to time for a selection of applications. However, I cannot remember the excat place where we were getting the material from. I know the place is in or around Riverside, CA. I think the name might be Ironman or something like that. I remember the place a weirdo name. Anyways, they are a huge industrial filter supplier.

 

Once you get the material you will then have a problem "sewing" it. You have to heavily over-sew all the seems after thay have been heat sealed inorder to get a good, resilient part.

 

Moving right along, as you probably already know, given the option of making a solid shield for the air filter, that doesn't restrict air flow is the best thing you can do. Many times this isn't very feasible from a space claim perspective or the environment the filter is used in will compromise any efforts to shield the filter.

 

Like I said before, I'm porbably not the most helpful, but atleast I can relate to the headache this project will give you. Good luck! :thumbsup:

[blowit]

I can provide a slection of information regarding your problem. None of it is going to answer your qustion though, I am afraid.

 

It is porbably worth pointing out that the Outerwears are sort of a bandaid solution to keeping large particles (realtively speaking) of debris out of the filters in addition to providing a small measure of protection against liquids. With that said, everyone in the motorcycle/ATV world that run their vehicles without an airbox uses Outerwears (as do many other folks). The material that Outerwears are made of is actually used as a liquid straining (filtering) material in the food processing industry. With that said there are several places to buy the material in bulk, rather inexpensively. My company has been known to use this material to make our own pre-filters from time to time for a selection of applications. However, I cannot remember the excat place where we were getting the material from. I know the place is in or around Riverside, CA. I think the name might be Ironman or something like that. I remember the place a weirdo name. Anyways, they are a huge industrial filter supplier.

 

Once you get the material you will then have a problem "sewing" it. You have to heavily over-sew all the seems after thay have been heat sealed inorder to get a good, resilient part.

 

Moving right along, as you probably already know, given the option of making a solid shield for the air filter, that doesn't restrict air flow is the best thing you can do. Many times this isn't very feasible from a space claim perspective or the environment the filter is used in will compromise any efforts to shield the filter.

 

Like I said before, I'm porbably not the most helpful, but atleast I can relate to the headache this project will give you. Good luck! :thumbsup:

 

 

Well of course we are trying to stay out if the sewing business We would much prefer to find a company that makes these at a more competitive rate. Let me know if you think of something.

 

 

Brandon

[Mullet Man]

K&N makes their own version of "Outerwears", called "Prechargers". maybe look into them...

[FireHead]

Well of course we are trying to stay out if the sewing business We would much prefer to find a company that makes these at a more competitive rate. Let me know if you think of something.

Brandon

 

I don't know that there is a company out there that makes them cheaper. There certainly isn't a company out there that makes custom Outerwears type filters in expensively. You may want to get China on the phone, they will pretty much make anything over there if you don't mind questionable quality. :biggrin:

[FireHead]

K&N makes their own version of "Outerwears", called "Prechargers". maybe look into them...

 

The K&N units are about the same price as the Outerwear units, if not more expensive.

[AnCieNt1]

this may sound strange but you might want to look into panty hose the little booties

[Mullet Man]

The K&N units are about the same price as the Outerwear units, if not more expensive.

 

 

like i said, he might want to look into it. :thumbsup:

 

sounds like he is looking for bulk supply, K&N might have better bulk pricing...i dunno

 

i think there is 3rd manufacturer also but i cant recall the name brand.?

[FireHead]

i think there is 3rd manufacturer also but i cant recall the name brand.?

 

I think you're right. I can't think of their name either. It seems to me that thye also make shock covers just like Outerwears does. :thumbsup:

[blowit]

I think you're right. I can't think of their name either. It seems to me that thye also make shock covers just like Outerwears does. :thumbsup:

 

I really thought there were a couple other cos but I sure can;t find them. No, the pantyhose will not work since this is for a production product. I was rather amazed with the high pricing right from outerwears and I am betting K&N would be cheaper but still out of our target pricing for the part. If you think of another, let me know.

 

 

 

Brandon

[FireHead]

I really thought there were a couple other cos but I sure can;t find them. No, the pantyhose will not work since this is for a production product. I was rather amazed with the high pricing right from outerwears and I am betting K&N would be cheaper but still out of our target pricing for the part. If you think of another, let me know.

Brandon

 

The problem is that the sewing and sealing of that material is a pretty delicate/expensive process. I was only kind of kidding about calling China. :cool:

[Leadfoot350]

im not sure how much you are getting yours for but I get mine at tsracing.com for 10 bucks each with their s&b filters. Those ones are 8" long and they are 10 bucks also. People advertise them elsewhere for 25 each which is a rip. So you can get 2 filters, 2 outwears for 40 bucks. Pretty cheap to me.

[Bansh-eman]

i think he is looking for like a flat roll of material.. not a filter thats made.. from what iv read h said somethig about making a marketable product ...

[FireHead]

i think he is looking for like a flat roll of material.. not a filter thats made.. from what iv read h said somethig about making a marketable product ...

 

I really think he just wanted a cheaper source for an Outerwears style product. He didn't seem very interested in my source for the bulk material.

[Bansh-eman]

No, the pantyhose will not work since this is for a production product.

 

oh this line is what made me think he was needing bulk to manufacture something...