dajogejr Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Im a serious hill climber and a drag guy. A good majority of Cascades bikes run 2 into 1 carb setups. If you go to there site and like at the bike pics in the photo section you can see all the bikes with them on it. My bike having stock internals does pretty well against ported 350's. Steep idiot Hole The bike that one this race has a 2 into 1 carb on it also. Drag Video I'm not going to argue. The top names in the sport of drag racing don't run 1 into 2 carbs. Cascade bike are nice bikes, but I'd bet the bikes they bring to the strip and dunes to competitively race are dual setups. Call A&S, K&T, RDZ, Grand River, Tyson, FAST, and the list goes one. Those guys MIGHT run singles on their dune/play bikes. NONE of them run singles on their drag bikes. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just stating facts. Anyone serious into drag racing runs alky, unless they specifically compete in a gas class, which...they still run duals. Anyone running alky knows, you stuff as much alky into the motor to the point where it almost hydro locks. Period... You tell me which can feed more fuel, two carbs or one. I will agree with you play bikes and those for occasional drag and more so duning will run just fine on a single setup. And, a single carb setup can be made to run very well, I'm not debating that. The bike (s) in the videos sound pretty good...however... No one that is serious into drag racing will run a single.... Quote
Bansh-eman Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 you have the right not to buy one but the products does work well and i seen a good performance gain with the product. the dyno shows a 20% power gain on the bottom and 15% up top. thats a power gain worth 400.00 to me. but if you feel it isnt thats fine also. thats a 20% bottom and a 15% top over stock... and id be willing to bet that its not anywhere near that much.. but either way i think we all agree that the stock carbs are garbage so you could put a 2itno 1 and a terd on the end of it and be better off then stock carbs Quote
Snopczynski Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) Well, the 2 into 1 must be doing something right, cause here is 12 of some of the nicest banshees I know of with the setup on them. Ranging from stock cylinders, to cheetah cubs, and stock stroke up to 6 mill. 34mm Pj up to 40mm Lectrons. I guess we just break the laws of Bansheeism up here in the Northwest! Big daves cheetah cub with 2 into 1 Corey's 4 mill stroke with 2 into 1 Little Daves 4 mill with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee #2 with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee #3 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #4 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #5 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #6 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #7 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #8 with 2 into 1 intake Trinity Racing Banshee with 2 into 1 intake Edited January 22, 2007 by Snopczynski Quote
bentvalve Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Posted January 22, 2007 hey im sorry about not getting your set up .. it looked well used and the one i got is like brand new. just thought my lonestar stem was worth more than your stuff either way i told you to sell it brother! the whole reason behind that is if i don't like it i would really like to sell it and get my money back and i really did not feel that your was worth $200 let alone $350.thanks don Quote
Bansh-eman Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Well, the 2 into 1 must be doing something right, cause here is 12 of some of the nicest banshees I know of with the setup on them. Ranging from stock cylinders, to cheetah cubs, and stock stroke up to 6 mill. 34mm Pj up to 40mm Lectrons. I guess we just break the laws of Bansheeism up here in the Northwest! Big daves cheetah cub with 2 into 1 Corey's 4 mill stroke with 2 into 1 Little Daves 4 mill with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee #2 with 2 into 1 Cascade Banshee #3 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #4 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #5 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #6 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #7 with 2 into 1 intake Cascade Banshee #8 with 2 into 1 intake Trinity Racing Banshee with 2 into 1 intake ya so those are nice looking biikes.. they got alot of money making them pretty ubt notice they all have low to mid ranged pipes... none of those are big motors or drag bikes.. so like has been said several times on here the 2itno1 are good for trials and bottom end not topend... Quote
bentvalve Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) well i guess that all there is left to do is get my shock redone and the spring will be here thurs. i have totally rebuilt the rear end all new bushings and bearings. as far as the engine goes i put adj timing on it at 4deg,billet water pump,installed a 32 fin cooler coming from head.i installed a noss head with 21 domes,v force 3's, and the trinity..just fired it up..filled carb hand kicked it over fired the 1st time! the idle was very low these pj's i really don't like how the idle is on choke.. does anyone have any idea what my compression should be around with the 21 domes and .20 over? don Edited January 22, 2007 by bentvalve Quote
dajogejr Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 SO....based on that because they look nice means they're fast? Are you actually reading what I'm typing....or did you feel the need to post a bunch of pics of blinged out bikes. Since you're willing to do all this work, do me a favor...call all the builders I mentioned above. Ask them if they run single carb setups on their drag bikes. When they pickup the phone after dropping it from laughing at you, I'm quite sure they'll confirm what I'm telling you. Call 'em up and tell 'em you want a 10 mil, 16 mil, 20 mil Cheetah, cub, caracal, super cub, twister...whatever, tell 'em you want to run a single...please, for your own northwest rebel mind. If you want to post more pics up of blinged out bikes, feel free. You're not disproving my point, which is the real drag bikes run duals. Just remember, you don't gotta be pretty to be fast.... I never said a 1 into 2 won't work. I never said you can't have fun with one on a fast bike, I simply said on real drag bikes, they use 2 carbs.... Are you done now? I'm kinda tired of you proving my point.... Quote
Bansh-eman Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 well i guess that all there is left to do is get my shock redone and the spring will be here thurs. i have totally rebuilt the rear end all new bushings and bearings. as far as the engine goes i put adj timing on it at 4deg,billet water pump,installed a 32 fin cooler coming from head.i installed a noss head with 21 domes,v force 3's, and the trinity..just fired it up..filled carb hand kicked it over fired the 1st time! the idle was very low these pj's i really don't like how the idle is on choke.. does anyone have any idea what my compression should be around with the 21 domes and .20 over? don the pj's are a little harder to idle then pwk's... mine would barly idle when i had them on...its hard to say what your compression should be ... to many factors... Quote
ohiobanshee Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 SO....based on that because they look nice means they're fast? Are you actually reading what I'm typing....or did you feel the need to post a bunch of pics of blinged out bikes. Since you're willing to do all this work, do me a favor...call all the builders I mentioned above. Ask them if they run single carb setups on their drag bikes. When they pickup the phone after dropping it from laughing at you, I'm quite sure they'll confirm what I'm telling you. Call 'em up and tell 'em you want a 10 mil, 16 mil, 20 mil Cheetah, cub, caracal, super cub, twister...whatever, tell 'em you want to run a single...please, for your own northwest rebel mind. If you want to post more pics up of blinged out bikes, feel free. You're not disproving my point, which is the real drag bikes run duals. Just remember, you don't gotta be pretty to be fast.... I never said a 1 into 2 won't work. I never said you can't have fun with one on a fast bike, I simply said on real drag bikes, they use 2 carbs.... Are you done now? I'm kinda tired of you proving my point.... So dave does this mean your not putting a single on your 10mill? j/k I like my single carb on my stock port trail bike, the ported 4mill motor im building will have dual 35's. eric Quote
dajogejr Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 So dave does this mean your not putting a single on your 10mill? j/k I like my single carb on my stock port trail bike, the ported 4mill motor im building will have dual 35's. eric :yelrotflmao: Nope, I"m putting a single 26mm on my 10 mil...then taking pictures....Midwest Style... Quote
ohiobanshee Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 :yelrotflmao: Nope, I"m putting a single 26mm on my 10 mil...then taking pictures....Midwest Style... I have a spare 16mm off a lt80 you can try. :yelrotflmao: Going to try to make it to silver lake this summer, hope to see you there. eric Quote
dave95.1 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 hey im sorry about not getting your set up .. it looked well used and the one i got is like brand new. just thought my lonestar stem was worth more than your stuff either way i told you to sell it brother! the whole reason behind that is if i don't like it i would really like to sell it and get my money back and i really did not feel that your was worth $200 let alone $350.thanks don Never said my stuff was worth 350. The deal was for 250 and if you didn't think it was worth it then you shouldn't have made the deal. And if you change your mind at least have the balls to say hey I changed my mind. Quote
dave95.1 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 And I never said I expected a straight up trade on your stem. We never even talked about the trade situation. Last was talked about was me asking for some pictures I never got. Quote
Snopczynski Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 We have some very fast bikes we ride with that run the 2 into 1 intake on them. They may not enter into a competition, but on a busy holiday weekend at the dunes, they very seldom lose races up boxcar and comp hill. Personally my own stuff back in the years of sandfest placed very well in the 350 mod class. I know my stuff, and I know these bikes pictured are very fast. The statement that a 2 into 1 intake, or a 2 into 1 pipe is only for trails or a stock bike is a very false statement. You guys can come up to Oregon and play in the holes with us anytime, then you will really see what these bikes can do on a steep hill. Quote
LiftdT4R Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Yup, if you read a page and half or so back, just like I said, pissing match. Good luck with your carb tuning bro, that's all I have to say. Quote
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