crbanshee Posted September 2, 2005 Report Posted September 2, 2005 i think the time to boycot some major gas companys has come..if everyone stops buying gas at the major companys they will have no choice but to lower prices just to keep the doors open..im not saying stop buying gas but stop buying it at places like mobil shell arco sitgo texaco all the major chain stores..goto the local independant guy..if noone is going to the local shell or texaco stations they will have no choice..i mean who realy goes to the gas station with the intent to buy a bag of chips 2 snicker bars and a coke? its an after thaught to buy that stuff when you are already there for gas..if we dont go there for gas we wont buy the junk food and crap they sell inside either..and by everyone not going there not only will prices drop but the little guy who owns joes gas or whatever will make money and the major corperations wont.and when gas prices drop again then joe will keep his prices lower than the major guys anyway.. just my $3.83 a gallon Quote
RNBRAD Posted September 2, 2005 Report Posted September 2, 2005 Where do you think the little guy gets his gas? From little Joe's oil company? This problems goes way beyond the big oil company's/marketers. Anyway look what the European's pay for gas, that's why they don't drive Hummers. You want to boycot, go buy a hybrid. Quote
Hilarious Posted September 2, 2005 Report Posted September 2, 2005 You go ahead and boycott for me. I gotta have fuel to be able to get to work. And lets not forget about the banshee. Can't let her starve to death. Quote
Cotton eyed Joe Posted September 2, 2005 Report Posted September 2, 2005 "Gas" companies aren't raising prices to be dicks, or to make more money, they are raising the prices to CURB consumption. I have a buddy that has worked at a Chevron Refinery here for over 15 years, and he's clued me into some of the ins and outs of why gas costs what it does. Here, around %30 of the gasolines price is STATE and FEDERAL tax. The refineries CANNOT operate at 100% capacity. What would happen if they had a major or even a minor shut down? Everyone would notice a gas shortage due to the downed refinery. Plus, there is scheduled maintanence that has to occur, and you can't do that at 100% capacity. Tree Huggers have lobbied enough that there hasn't been any new refineries built in 25 years (Source: Heard it on Fox News about 3 months ago) If there aren't new refineries built, there can't be an increase in gasoline production. Plus, the stinking hippies have stopped drilling for the most part here. There are oil reserves near Long Beach, Anwar, etc, that we can't touch. Here in Utah, there is a possible VERY LARGE oil reserve that has been discovered with todays more modern oil finding technology. Doesn't matter much if there isn't a refinery to refine it. So, the only way to STOP consumption is to raise the fucking price to the point that we HAVE to slow it down. Asking us doesn't work. If gas was $0.40 per gallon, and they asked you to stop consuming, you'd tell them to promptly fuck off, and you'd go buy your full tank of gas. If gas is $10 per gallon, there is no way you can even afford to fill your tank, thereby, conserving what gasoline is available. The price of crude effects everything else like clothing, paint, carpet, shit that is made in America (what little there is now days) so expect an increase in those products as well plus the increase in shipping that will be there for a while. We don't really have it as bad as my parents did in the 70's Gas was $0.20 per gallon (about minimum wage or so...don't have my dad here at the moment to ask him) and it went to nearly $4.00 per gallon in some areas. It eventually came back down to around $0.50-$0.60 or so and has slowly increased until this last year. Here minimum wage is $6.75, and gas is $2.80 as I came home. I know everything else has gone up as well, but we are only comparing the price of gasoline to minimum wage. The price will come down eventually, and we should all curb our consumption as much as we can for now anyway. I'd like to place blame on groups like the Sierra Club for things like this. Quote
Big Blue Posted September 2, 2005 Report Posted September 2, 2005 I dont know how well the high prices and conserving is working, I see people loading up everything they can carry to put gas in around here they are stock piling incase of the big increase. I would love to boycot but how and i supposed to get to work? Quote
Cotton eyed Joe Posted September 3, 2005 Report Posted September 3, 2005 I dont know how well the high prices and conserving is working, I see people loading up everything they can carry to put gas in around here they are stock piling incase of the big increase. I would love to boycot but how and i supposed to get to work? 411043[/snapback] "Stockpiling" will just cause a bigger increase in price, and could possibly lead to a shortage. Then we're fucked. Just buy what you need to get by. Drive like you normally do, but cut out any driving that you can. I put $40 in my truck today so I could top off my tank. I'm not buying any extra. Im just using it until it gets to 1/2 tank, then buying enough to fill it. I'm not taking any trips right now, me and my wife are lucky enough to have a Honda Civic that gets great mileage, so we drive that on the weekends, but I still have to drive my 3/4 ton Chevy to work everyday. About 10-12 miles one way. If I don't come home for lunch everyday, I travel about 20-25 miles less EVERY day. At 15 miles per gallon around town, thats about $3-$4+ per day I save. Over the 6 days per week I work, thats $25-$40 or more depending on if I have to go run errands or deliveries for the shop. Obviously, it aint easy, but it won't be this way forever. Quote
Fireman-hott Posted September 3, 2005 Report Posted September 3, 2005 Cotton eyes a smart man listen to him. I know a couple firemen that work at the BP refinery in Whiting,IN. Basically the same thing. $3/gallon ~$1 of thats taxes. There is also about a year and a halfs supply give/take of oil just floating around in barges in the worlds oceans being traded just like every other commodity. Hybrids, fuck have you seen the price of them fuckers. $30k+ for a car that no one really knows about its long term reliability. But I also bought a first year truck in the Titan. $30k for a helluva lot more useablilty. try towing a 4-5k lb trailer in your prious. Be nice to see some companies like speedway etc get some shit for raising prices knowing full well its bullshit. I went to work $2.69/gallon got off $3.59/gallon 2 days later down to $2.99/gallon. Thats straight bullshit gouging I feel personally and i know a bit of the inside workings. And yeah these tree huggers are gonna ruin America. Can't do shit, OSHA, EPA, Government, Tree Huggers taxed/fined/made impossible restrictions on these companies till they basically said fuck it and went overseas. Cafta/Nafta dont have shit to do with it as much as people think. Oh and on a side note did you see the black lady like the very next morning after Katrina on the news screaming about how its the governments fault, the governemnts not getting them supplies blah blah blah. Apparently the warning " get the fuck outta dodge before you drown" wasn't good enough? Besides some "quacks" have been saying this shit would happen for awhile now, at least the last 4-5years. Quote
Big Blue Posted September 3, 2005 Report Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) "Stockpiling" will just cause a bigger increase in price, and could possibly lead to a shortage. Then we're fucked. Just buy what you need to get by. Drive like you normally do, but cut out any driving that you can. I put $40 in my truck today so I could top off my tank. I'm not buying any extra. Im just using it until it gets to 1/2 tank, then buying enough to fill it. I'm not taking any trips right now, me and my wife are lucky enough to have a Honda Civic that gets great mileage, so we drive that on the weekends, but I still have to drive my 3/4 ton Chevy to work everyday. About 10-12 miles one way. If I don't come home for lunch everyday, I travel about 20-25 miles less EVERY day. At 15 miles per gallon around town, thats about $3-$4+ per day I save. Over the 6 days per week I work, thats $25-$40 or more depending on if I have to go run errands or deliveries for the shop. Obviously, it aint easy, but it won't be this way forever. 411056[/snapback] I drive roughly the same miles a day to work as you do, without extra running around ive been able to make a 1/4 tank last 1 full week in my 1/2 ton pickup, that is with me going to work and coming home and nothing else. Im hoping it goes down by the begining the week of the 12th because i start a 60+ mile a day commute to school to get my CDL, it will end up costing more in gas that the class costs if it stays up. How does claming gas on your taxes work as far as for business, scool or other wise? Edited September 3, 2005 by Big Blue Quote
dirtplay1975 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 all I see is if it keeps going up some people will soon be on unemployment since they could no longer afford gas to get to work, especially if they drive 60+ miles one way to work. If you cant afford to put gas in your car, you cant go to work, then you cant buy anything and the economy is going to take a big dive. I have already noticed this at work in the auto parts industry, people are doing without anything that they dont absolutely have to have just so they can afford to put gas in their cars to go to work. I mean they are gonna put off matinece as long as they can and buy less at grocery stores, walmart etc just to be abel to get to work, Unfotunately there is gonna be a big potential for a drop in economy due to this because prices are going to go up across the board and wages most likely will do nothing. Quote
Big Blue Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Probably wont stay this way but today gas tood a 10 cent drop today here, back donw to about 2.95 a gallon. Quote
STLBILL Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 Is it not sad how America is suddenly happy to see $2.95 a gallon? Prices here also dropped a dime to $3.09. However, when cleaning out my vehicle tonight I found a receipt for $2.08 a gallon. It was from mid July. Quote
thegroup Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 i know gas prices have got me here in Adrian, MO. just north of me in Archie, it's 2.99, but im still paying 3.19. my '94 Z-28 got to have it or wont run for shit. kindof glad i got the cold air intake and exhaust last year, def. made a differents in my gas mileage. i drive about 20 miles one way to work each day. use to be about $60 a week to fill up from 1/2 to 3/4 tank (about 3X a week or so) now its going to be like $80 when i go back to work after my vaction is over (come tuesday ) Quote
MILO Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 some local stations here are putting limits on purchasing already. 10 gal limit for example. another local smaller station is out of gas, which isn't really a bad thing at the moment. he has older pumps that will not read over $3 a gal and has to update all his pumps or shut down after being in the buisness for about 30 years. he can't afford to wait and hope it drops below $3 again and stays there. stock piling isn't the answer... i wonder how much gas people wasted sitting and poking around in lines for hours and hours waiting to fill up i think it's funny when everyone loads up every vehicle and jug they have, then the price drops again right after. i agree with the others on just continue to get only what you need as usual, and try to reduce your traveling as much as possible. i don't care what gas goes to, i'm keeping my full size blazer with the 350. i refuse to do without 4wd and plenty of pep to pull the quads or whatever around. i vowed to never own another little 4banger again. the wife's trailblazer does some better on milage so we use it when we can. but i think like the majority of people, i'll just grin and bear it rather than turn my life upside down because of higher prices. Quote
Big Blue Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 some local stations here are putting limits on purchasing already. 10 gal limit for example. another local smaller station is out of gas, which isn't really a bad thing at the moment. 411371[/snapback] Are they just not delivering gas up there or what? as far as I know here the stations are getting deliveries as usual. Quote
bigboybanshee Posted September 4, 2005 Report Posted September 4, 2005 I put $40 in my truck today so I could top off my tank. I'm not buying any extra. Im just using it until it gets to 1/2 tank, then buying enough to fill it.I'm not taking any trips right now, me and my wife are lucky enough to have a Honda Civic that gets great mileage, so we drive that on the weekends, but I still have to drive my 3/4 ton Chevy to work everyday. About 10-12 miles one way. 411056[/snapback] That is a freakin coincidence and a half...I'm doing the same thing, let my gas tank get to half full and then top it off. My wife has a Honda civic that we're driving on the weekends, that thing gets like 30 miles to the gallon. Great minds do think alike!! Probably wont stay this way but today gas tood a 10 cent drop today here, back donw to about 2.95 a gallon. 411318[/snapback] Shit, I wish....last night, the only gas station that had gas in my area went UP to 3.59 a gallon. Are they just not delivering gas up there or what? as far as I know here the stations are getting deliveries as usual. 411386[/snapback] I've talked to a few people at the gas stations here that told me they weren't buying as much gas and little to none of the premium gas...most told me they didn't know when they would refill. It mainly affects the little gas stations around, most of the bigger named stations are still getting gas; just not as much or the paranoid folks are topping off their tank after every trip Right now, I'm lucky to find a station that has gas...a lot of Memphis' stations are really low or completely out. It costs the stations more just like it costs us more to buy gas. Granted, some stations gouge a little bit (some a lot) but they raise their prices because the oil costs more...typical inflation but just on something that EVERYONE is affected by which makes it more of an "issue". Oh, and to boycott the gas price increase by not buying any..... sure buddy, I have to earn a paycheck to pay bills, do you expect us to flintstone it to work and back? Quote
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