monkeyarms13 Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) Hi all, I am new to the forums and am having a few problems with my 02 banshee. I''ve had the 'shee for about 3 months, and it was running fine until a few days ago (after my uncle rode it) He was kept shifting gears without even letting them wind all the way out, not even CLOSE. Now i cannot get it to kickstart at all, the only way I can get it to start is to pull-start it. When it does start, it is sputtering and occasionally backfiring out of the rightside exhaust, and never will run right. And unless you keep ALOT of gas on it, it will die. Any suggestions on what this might be? I appreciate the help. Josh Edited July 18, 2005 by monkeyarms13 Quote
CombatTalon2 Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 wont kick over, or will just not start with the kickstart? did you pull the plugs? any metal bits on the insulator? how does the compression feel? could also check the reeds and make sure they are not broken. Quote
superchicken Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 sounds like the plugs may be foulled.change them out Quote
BansheeCJ3 Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 I've seen this before...its most likely the plugs. Quote
monkeyarms13 Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Posted July 18, 2005 wont kick over, or will just not start with the kickstart? did you pull the plugs? any metal bits on the insulator? how does the compression feel? could also check the reeds and make sure they are not broken. 393697[/snapback] it just won't start with the kickstart... i'm hoping it's just the plugs... what's ironic is the left side plug seemed carboned up, but the right side looks fine. (these plugs were just put in a few weeks before my uncle rode it) i'm really a newb to ATV's in general... so i'm still learning on this whole maintenance thing. Is there a write-up somewhere i can look at on how to properly clean the carbs, etc.? Also, i'm gonna sound like a reall noob for sayin this one, but how do i check the reeds? Quote
sredish Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 sounds like the plugs may be foulled.change them out 393699[/snapback] exactly what i was thinking. change the plugs, then do some low-mid throttle jetting to keep it from happening again. Quote
Banshee~ Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 it just won't start with the kickstart... i'm hoping it's just the plugs... what's ironic is the left side plug seemed carboned up, but the right side looks fine. (these plugs were just put in a few weeks before my uncle rode it) i'm really a newb to ATV's in general... so i'm still learning on this whole maintenance thing. Is there a write-up somewhere i can look at on how to properly clean the carbs, etc.? Also, i'm gonna sound like a reall noob for sayin this one, but how do i check the reeds? 393703[/snapback] I would put some new plugs in there, if that doesnt work pull both the carbs off then you can take off the reed cages to check the reeds. Heres a good jetting and carb site Jetting FAQ. Quote
monkeyarms13 Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) I would put some new plugs in there, if that doesnt work pull both the carbs off then you can take off the reed cages to check the reeds. Heres a good jetting and carb site Jetting FAQ. 393740[/snapback] THANKS! I appreciate everyone's suggestions! Unfortunately I cannot find anywhere that sells the plugs except for my local atv dealer, and they are not opened until tuesday. I will try the plugs first, then check the reeds. thanks Banshee~ for the pic!/ write up site! Edited July 18, 2005 by monkeyarms13 Quote
CombatTalon2 Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 THANKS! I appreciate everyone's suggestions! Unfortunately I cannot find anywhere that sells the plugs except for my local atv dealer, and they are not opened until tuesday. I will try the plugs first, then check the reeds. thanks Banshee~ for the pic!/ write up site! 393749[/snapback] Any auto parts store will probably have them. I know Autozone has BR8ES plugs....they were like 1.35 each! Quote
simonsays Posted July 18, 2005 Report Posted July 18, 2005 My friend had some simillar stuff that happened to his bike cause he let someone drive it.... the guy who wrecked my friends bike kept it at very high rpm and was shifting properly with the cltuch and gears.... finally the bike died...... the kick start wasent working..... it turned out the one of the pistons was fucked and the crank was broken ..... thats why i never let anyone drive my shee Quote
monkeyarms13 Posted July 19, 2005 Author Report Posted July 19, 2005 well today we installed new plugs and this wasn't the problem. it STILL will not kick start, and we pull-started it today with my jeep, and it still sputtered and missed out down the road. once you get it into 3rd gear it seems to do fine, but 1-2nd is terrible and when you stop it immediately dies. any other suggestions? Quote
B-Shee07 Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 whats the dif between br7es and br8es Quote
Rare Scottish Tree Badger Posted July 20, 2005 Report Posted July 20, 2005 well today we installed new plugs and this wasn't the problem. it STILL will not kick start, and we pull-started it today with my jeep, and it still sputtered and missed out down the road. once you get it into 3rd gear it seems to do fine, but 1-2nd is terrible and when you stop it immediately dies. any other suggestions? 394226[/snapback] As mentioned above, if it's not your plugs then try checking your reeds. Quote: "but how do i check the reeds?" ... You need to remove the carbs and then each reed cage is held on with 4 socket head capscrews (allen head bolts). Take out the cages and look for any of the following: Reed petals not closed against the cage, broken reeds, cracks/ chips, distortion, or even a bit of dirt or something else stuck between the petals and the cage. whats the dif between br7es and br8es 394771[/snapback] BR7s are a 'hotter' plug than a BR8 which means they reach their ideal working temperature at a lower temperature in the combustion chamber. Only use that type of plug if the motor never runs at high loads or high temperatures. (unlikely 'cos it's a 'Shee!). ... Using a hotter plug in the wrong conditions can lead to overheating and preignition. Rare. Quote
biggun6ss Posted July 21, 2005 Report Posted July 21, 2005 My firend had a similar problem with his shee. It kept poping out the right side and when you pulled in the clutch it would die. We could kick start it though but took forever. Turned out that the slide in the right carb was stuck open. We cleaned both carbs and now it runs fine. If the slide is stuck open, as soon as you touch the throttle it will rev very high. Quote
monkeyarms13 Posted July 27, 2005 Author Report Posted July 27, 2005 Well a compression test was done today, with one cylinder showing 0 and the other 90 time for a rebuild Quote
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