Porting & T-6

[superdave]

Ok.....Ok...Ok...Yes I have searched and have not got a full answer...I have T-6's and I love them. I also have the hush kit with the spark arrestor...My Banshee feels so much faster and pulls harder than my YFZ450 that was piped, air box mod, jetted, and cam mod...and it ripped. But I am still wanting more power..I have seen passion and eric gorr on hear and people seem to love the port work, but state that the T-6 will not handle the mods... I do not want to hear that my friend this or my friend that I want to hear from people who have them or have ridden the ported T-6 Banshee....I am also going to get a noss head when I get some more cash...and advance my timing.. Just give me the facts....PLEASE Oh I love my dune edition elkas and the +2+1pro-comp arms...Also thanks for the support for the non-payment issue...D

[locogato11283]

to my knowledge the t6 were designed specifically for stock engines. i have heard from many people they do not like porting. if you want to do some porting i would really recommend some t5's. gorr's woods port goes very well with t5's. my brother had this set up with a +7 timing advance and 19cc domes and it ran very hard. if you are wanting to do some porting id lose the t6's.

[FIRST BANSHEE]

I have t-6s also, but the fact is toomey designed them for a stock port motor. they respond well to bolt on mods, but toomey themselves will tell you to run the t-5s if your going to port the motor

[richybanshee]

FIRST BANSHEE

toomey themselves will tell you to run the t-5s if your going to port the motor

 

Toomey told me that. Also, the people from Patriot Racing said that they did a lot of testing and TR6 did not performe so good with ported motors.

Bolt on mods should be okay.

 

 

This is why I bought CPI's ... thinking for future mods.

 

For a stock shee and bolt-ons, probably TR6's are the best HP gainers. They also look awesome and very well constructed, sound is the best.

Edited March 17, 2005 by richybanshee

[ellison445]

I wouldnt bother porting that motor if your going to stay with the t-6's. The T-5s respond much better to porting. Also I have ridden a few bikes with that passion port, not to bring anyone down but I would stay away from that as well. I have heard nothing but good things about the Gorr woods port. Im on the market for porting as well, Im stuck between Grand river racing port job and the Gorrs woods port. Also another good choice for a pipe is rockets, Im more than sure you can sell those t-6s for about what you paid for them and pick up a set of rockets from minkia for cheap. Thats just my my 2cents!!

[superdave]

The TR6 pipe design, is for the stock engine specifically.

Anytime you modify the engine where you will be altering the exhaust gas temperature, (Exhaust Port change, or compression ratio change) you will be deviating from the TR6 design capability.

 

The reason it is the best, and works so well on a stock engine, is that it is a VERY specific design meant to maximize the potential of the stock engine, which most people actually have. It is not designed to accommodate any other port design range at all.

 

Our T5 design DOES have this wider design capability, thus it works well on stock OR modified engines, right up into the higher RPM ranges as well.

But, not AS well on the lower RPM ranges, at which a stock engine/RPM range operates, as the TR6.

 

So, for low-end and mid range power, in the stock engine/RPM range, the TR6 is your best choice, and for modified engines, or sustained high RPM operation, the T5 is the best choice.

 

ST

 

 

 

Thank you from all of us at,

 

Toomey Racing USA, Inc.

3019 Propeller Dr.

Paso Robles CA 93446

(805) 239-8870 V

(805) 239-2514 F

www.toomey.com

[email protected]

 

A wise man once said,

"In order to go fast,

you must not go slow"

 

Ok this is and email I just recieved from Toomey....So I have my answer....When I get the money for the port work then I guess my pipes will be for sale...D.

[ellison445]

Wise man!!!!

 

The TR6 pipe design, is for the stock engine specifically.

Anytime you modify the engine where you will be altering the exhaust gas temperature, (Exhaust Port change, or compression ratio change) you will be deviating from the TR6 design capability.

 

The reason it is the best, and works so well on a stock engine, is that it is a VERY specific design meant to maximize the potential of the stock engine, which most people actually have. It is not designed to accommodate any other port design range at all.

 

Our T5 design DOES have this wider design capability, thus it works well on stock OR modified engines, right up into the higher RPM ranges as well.

But, not AS well on the lower RPM ranges, at which a stock engine/RPM range operates, as the TR6.

 

So, for low-end and mid range power, in the stock engine/RPM range, the TR6 is your best choice, and for modified engines, or sustained high RPM operation, the T5 is the best choice.

 

ST

Thank you from all of us at,

 

Toomey Racing USA, Inc.

3019 Propeller Dr.

Paso Robles  CA  93446

(805) 239-8870 V

(805) 239-2514 F

www.toomey.com

[email protected]

 

A wise man once said,

"In order to go fast,

you must not go slow"

 

Ok this is and email I just recieved from Toomey....So I have my answer....When I get the money for the port work then I guess my pipes will be for sale...D.

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[superdave]

Ok..Ok...If no one else will do it I will...we are just getting into riding season here in colorado, so if i blow it up or get some cash this summer I will tear it apart and get it ported and see if the t-6 can be ported or not...I figure if I port it and it does not work and I need new pipes then I needed new pipes anyway and I just sped up the process..I will keep everyone posted...D

[01bansheeke]

IT WILL WORK, but you will be slow lmao

seriously, it will work with porting, but your port, regardless of who did it, will only be as good as your pipes.

[spoin39]

Yes you can port it with T6's, but you will not get as much of an increase as you will with the T5's. I bought T6's for mine (see mods below) and after one ride, I switched back to the T5's and sold the T6's to a friend with a stock engine. I noticed the midrange power was down compared to the T5's and a little weaker on top too. These people on here are trying to save you hassle and money! If you want more power (i.e. porting/head mods) get the T5's, they will perform better!

[locogato11283]

IT WILL WORK, but you will be slow lmao

seriously, it will work with porting, but your port, regardless of who did it, will only be as good as your pipes.

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kinda like how youre gonna be with them cpi's...

[Hunt4BigGame]

I have an '04 shee with T-6's, Trinity TT porting, blah, blah, blah....you can see the list below. The fact of the matter is, if you get the jetting correct it will run like a stripped @$$ed ape! I really doubt you would notice much of a difference between t-5's and t-6's, unless you dyno both sets. The t-5's may hit harder, but I couldn't imagine that...I can't get hooked up now!

My buddy has a '98 shee with T-6's, Trinity MX porting, and everything else the same as mine, and it rips! With his MX porting his hit is a little milder than mine and comes in at a lower rpm.

 

If you are just interested in the most power you can get, maybe, maybe the T-5's might give you a couple more horsepower. Thing is, a better rider with less horsepower can still be faster.

 

Just my two cents......

[race-a-holic]

I have an '04 shee with T-6's, Trinity TT porting, blah, blah, blah....you can see the list below. The fact of the matter is, if you get the jetting correct it will run like a stripped @$$ed ape! I really doubt you would notice much of a difference between t-5's and t-6's, unless you dyno both sets.  The t-5's may hit harder, but I couldn't imagine that...I can't get hooked up now!

My buddy has a '98 shee with T-6's, Trinity MX porting, and everything else the same as mine, and it rips! With his MX porting his hit is a little milder than mine and comes in at a lower rpm.

 

If you are just interested in the most power you can get, maybe,  maybe the T-5's might give you a couple more horsepower. Thing is, a better rider with less horsepower can still be faster.

 

Just my two cents......

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Shortly after I had my T-6's(upset with how they were performing),I contacted Toomey and told them all the mods I had done besides the T-6's.I was told a T-5 would do better.They actually traded with me.That says a whole lot about how great of a company they really are.I'm not sure they will still do that,but I was impressed.Now I don't mean I had them 2 years and they were all beat up.I mean a few months and they still looked new.I'd have to say Toomey is worth dealing with.How come they have never designed a drag pipe?Maybe beause of all the different styles of porting?

[Oilsmoke]

Reas11 Ported his Shee with T6's Then Sold them for a Set of Shearer. You could pm him and ask him his View on Porting with t6's.

Edited April 29, 2005 by Oilsmoke