trouble starting

[compose2]

my 99 shee will not kick start for the life of it. i ran a compression check and it was a little low so i put a new top end in with wiseco pro-lites. my compression is around 140lbs per cylinder now, still won't kick start. i sprayed starter fluid in the airbox and it started right away. maybe something with fuel delivery. please help!

[SDD]

Check for spark... your CDI might be going bad.

[compose2]

Check for spark... your CDI might be going bad.

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great spark in both cylinders. once i used the started fluid, it started in one kick. i think its not getting enough fuel to start it but once its running its fine

[Banchetta]

great spark in both cylinders. once i used the started fluid, it started in one kick. i think its not getting enough fuel to start it but once its running its fine

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make sure you didn't switch the carb bowls when you took it apart. ONly one carb bowl has the choke jet in the bottom of the bowl for the choke carb...also make sure the choke tube between the carbs is still there and that you didn't put the slides in the carbs backwards (cutaway should face air box)

[compose2]

make sure you didn't switch the carb bowls when you took it apart. ONly one carb bowl has the choke jet in the bottom of the bowl for the choke carb...also make sure the choke tube between the carbs is still there and that you didn't put the slides in the carbs backwards (cutaway should face air box)

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im sure everything is back together good cuz once it started, i rode it a little and it ran great. tons of power. im just wondering why it is so hard to start initially.

[Banchetta]

im sure everything is back together good cuz once it started, i rode it a little and it ran great. tons of power. im just wondering why it is so hard to start initially.

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The carb bowls will ONLY affect starting...

[compose2]

The carb bowls will ONLY affect starting...

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should i try switching the carb bowls to see if it starts?

[Fireman-hott]

bad gas will make it hard to start, maybe go up a size on the pilot too.

[Banchetta]

should i try switching the carb bowls to see if it starts?

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Just pull the choke carb and pull the bowl off. You should see a brass tube in the bowl. At the bottom of the tube should be a little tiny jet. If you see that, then your fine and might want to blow air through it while its apart, if not, then your bowls are switched...

[compose2]

Just pull the choke carb and pull the bowl off. You should see a brass tube in the bowl. At the bottom of the tube should be a little tiny jet. If you see that, then your fine and might want to blow air through it while its apart, if not, then your bowls are switched...

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i'll try that. thanks

[Meat]

They're cold blooded creatures thats for sure, mines got plenty of compression but she's still very hard to start when its freezin' cold.

 

Here's some ideas.

Warm up the garage where you keep the quad. Get that room temp up to alteast the mid 50's. I like to place my kerosene heater close to the quad and then i'll leave it the garage for an hour. Warm garage helps.

 

Airscrews. Where do you have em set at ?? The colder it gets the richer you should set yer screws. Turn em both in a half a turn. What size are your pilot jets ? If your running aftermarket pipes then get some size 30 or even 32.5 pilot jets.

 

Learn the cold starting proceedure. Here's mine.

First I'll shake the hell outta the quad to mix up the gas in the tank, the newer modern pre-mix oils claim they don't seperate, but its just an old habit of mine to shake er up before I fire it up.

So shake the quad up, and keep the engine kill switch in the OFF position and the fuel petcock in the OFF position, hold the throttle wide open and give it 20 good hard fast kicks. This will mix up any gas\oil that settle'd around the bottom of the crank and clear out the combustion chamber.

Now turn on the gas.

Turn on the run switch.

Full choke the bastard.

I'll wick the throttle a coupla times, being careful not to flood it.

With your kickstarter, bring one piston up to TDC, ratchet the kickstarter to the top of its travel and kick er over.

I don't give it any throttle on the first few kicks.

If it doesnt start in 5 kicks, give er a little thottle action while your kicking.

If it doesnt start in 20 solid kicks, and your sure the engine is in good running condition, stop and rest your kicker foot. You might have it flooded. Turn off the run switch and fuel petcock, hold the thottle wide open and kick it 20 times, this will help "un-flood" it. Its easier to kick if you pop one or both spark plugs out. If the spark plugs are wet, replace em with fresh dry ones. Make sure they're gapped correctly too, if the gap is too small they're harder to start. Don't want something silly like a .020 gap causing you all your headaches.... or should I say... footaches .

TAKE THAT CAN OF STARTER FLUID AND GIVE IT TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AND NEVER EVER USE THAT SHIT AGAIN ON YOUR 2-STROKE. A better method, for the sake of those pistons, is to pull out one or both plugs and put a very small amount of your pre-mixed gasoline down the sparkplug hole. You only need a little bit of gas, like a soda bottle cap full at most.

 

When its 14 degrees outside and my Banshee sits for a week, its a mofo to start. I have plenty of compression too, its just the nature of the beast. A warm garage really helps tho. Good luck and wear a good pair of boots, iv put many of hole in sole of my right sneakers

[fixitrod]

I get mine out when it's 15 deg. Pull the choke, shake it a little bit and fire it up. No problem. I'm rich on my pilots though. That's what you need. You can't flood the shee by blipping the throttle; it doesn't have an accelerator pump like a car carburetor does. I suppose if you kick it over a lot with the ignition turned off it will.

[night rider]

I get mine out when it's 15 deg. Pull the choke, shake it a little bit and fire it up. No problem. I'm rich on my pilots though. That's what you need. You can't flood the shee by blipping the throttle; it doesn't have an accelerator pump like a car carburetor does. I suppose if you kick it over a lot with the ignition turned off it will.

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hell yeh man richen up the pilots or try this pull the choke out and kick it 3 times reel slow then turn the ign. on and give it hell that is what I do when were out on the ice and its below 0 hope it helps

[compose2]

i took the float bowl off the choked carb and tried blowing in the choke jet. at first it felt plugged but the second time i blew in it, it passed air through it. maybe my choke jet was plugged and was giving enough gas to the motor.