CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 As you know, I had the shee motor completly rebuilt with new crank, pistons, all that good stuff just recently. Well the shee sat for about a week and when I went to start it up to go riding, it wouldnt start. I ended up cleaning the plugs (they were fouled) one time and pushing it down my driveway to get it started. It ran perfect the whole time. Well a few days later I got it out to ride again and when I checked the tranny oil it was WAY to full and was grey in color. I figured it was caused by it not starting a few days prior and changed the tranny oil no big deal. The next day (today) I checked it again and it was overfilled again and grey but not as bad as before. So I once again changed the tranny oil. It also was a little hard to start, had to kick about 15-20 times before it would even fire. It ran perfectly after that, and I ran it hard too just to see if it would burp or anything-NOPE ran fine. The oil was at the right level and black like its suppose to be when I parked it tonight so iam gonna check the tranny oil again tomorrow morning and if its overfilled and grey iam calling the shop who rebuilt it. Any ideas what would cause this? I was thinking gas mixing with tranny oil some how? Iam not loosing any coolant and the exhaust is normal-dosent smell like its burning coolant or anything. Any help is greatly appreciated, and if this is a retarded question iam sorry iam just paranoid since I just put $1500 into the motor not to long ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frocashmoney24 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 who rebuilt the motor? only thing i can think of is a shitty gasket somewhere leaking, i'd take it back to the builder and tell them fuckers to fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I am thinking along the lines of either the casenot being sealed properly, or cooolant leaking in there..... But you say you're not losing any coolant. Are you POSITIVE you're not losing any coolant? I don't want to piss you off, but sometimes people just say something and don't really check, and it ends up being that... (like the coolant thing). That is what it most likely sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Ive checked the radiator and the little tank under the seat and (according to them) iam not loosing any. Of course that dont mean anything it could still be burning some just not enough for me to notice. Iam calling the shop that built it soon as iam done here, thanks for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) I just checked the tranny oil (first time today) and its a little above the full mark but not very grey. When I last checked last night it was right at the full mark. One thing i noticed is when this happends its overnight. I can check it 50 times while iam riding, even if i let it sit for a half hour or so to cool then check, and it will be fine. But if it sits overnight then its above the full mark the next day. Weird. I wish I had a digital camera so I could show you all a pic of it, because I saved all the oil and you can clearly see its dark grey instead of the normal black. Frocashmoney--Blacks Motorsports in Parkersburg West Virginia built it. There realy respected builders for banshee motors around here and ive never heard of anyone having a problem with them. They 'stand behind there motors' so when I call we'll see what they say. Edited May 14, 2004 by CoolRaptor2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I am thinking along the lines of either the casenot being sealed properly, or cooolant leaking in there..... But you say you're not losing any coolant. Are you POSITIVE you're not losing any coolant? I don't want to piss you off, but sometimes people just say something and don't really check, and it ends up being that... (like the coolant thing). That is what it most likely sounds like. i agree. its gotta be coolant. is it kinda milky looking? im bettin it is. you must have a seal that didnt get in good. just because ur coolant level is still ok doesnt mean its not leaking. it wont take much coolant and water to turn that shit milky colored. is there any oil in your coolant? drain your coolant today and see if there are small oil particles in it. id be willing to bet there are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 The reason it looks like it fills up overnight is because the oil settles back down in to the tranny. Whereas, when you're riding, the oil is all over the place, and would make it appear low........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Check the water pump seal (behind the impeller). It only takes a few drops of water in oil to turn it grey, so you may not notice any missing from the radiator. If it is white, then lots of water is in there, then you would notice some missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) tell those fucks they fucked up and you want a new seal for free because it is OBVIOUSLY leaking coolant... Theres not much other Liquids in the bike after all! Just Tranny Oil And Coolant what else could it be? They are probably hoping that you will jsut ride it and have to take it back to split your cases because it wil be fucked up! Edited May 14, 2004 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) The reason it looks like it fills up overnight is because the oil settles back down in to the tranny. Whereas, when you're riding, the oil is all over the place, and would make it appear low........ I DO know that. I let it sit for about a half hour after riding before I would check it. That should (??) be enough time for the oil to settle back down in there. I checked it last night again about 3 hours after i had been riding to make sure it had cooled down also. The shop said its either a seal or the water pump, if its the seal they will cover it 100%. Yes it is kind of milky looking, its not white but its a grey-ish color. They told me to take it back to them on monday but iam probably gonna have to wait a while because the truck we carry it in is having is own tranny problems. Iam just gonna take it back to them and have them do it that way if its messed up again its there fault. Thanks for all your replies, like i said before I dunno what i would do without this place P.S.-When I wrote "Ive checked the radiator and the little tank under the seat and (according to them) iam not loosing any." I meant according to the res. tank and radiator, not the bike shop. They havent tried any BS so far and I dont suspect them too. There well known around here so if they did it would only hurt them. Edited May 14, 2004 by CoolRaptor2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 For coolant to enter the tranny, it has 2 routes to travel. One is the o-ring that goes around the tube that goes from the clutch cover/water pump housing and into the case, or through the water pump shaft seal...... I am guessing it is the first option. It happens more often than the water pump..... Although, if the water pump shaft was wore a little, some coolant could be squeaking by there..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frocashmoney24 Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 sweet, hope they fix it quick n a hurry so u dont have to wait any, pretty good policy that they stand behind there engines, more and more these days, people do shitty work and blame it on you and make u pay more to rebuild it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Yeah they seem to know what there doing, one guy at the shop supposedly has been working with banshees since 'the begining'. Well, whenever my grand dads truck is fixed ill get him to drive me and the shee over and get it all taken care of. Bah, shee is down again Atleast it isent anything major i guess lol, thanks again for everyones replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 hey cool raptor, whats up with your name? you have a craptor?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRaptor2001 Posted May 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Had me goin' there for a sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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