DBLtapS Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 '04, TR-6's, Toomey 2:1 high flow air kit w/outerware, 280 main, stock pilot(25,) toomey needles 4 clip from the top, air screws 2.5 turns out. Klots 40:1. Michigan, 600ft above sea level, 50 today. I imagine it will only get worse as it warms up. My low end sucks. Mid to top end is great but low end is boggy. I played with the jetting when I first put the pipes on and no matter what I did the low end wasnt there (290 mains, 30 pilots.) Low end was better stock.... Any suggestions? Other than do a plug chop. My plugs are good at wot. Any way to test the jetting at low end other than throttle response? What if I go with a smaller pilot to lean it out? bad idea? Thanks in advance Quote
Brian G Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 Get rid of the toomey needles and put the stock ones back in 3rd clip. Do you have aftermarket reeds in it? if so I would use a 35 pilot 1-.5 turns out you main seems fine. Quote
sredish Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 I agree. Get rid of the toomey needle and go back to the stocker, 4th clip might work good depending on your airbox mods and where your at. Just remember your playing with Toomeys and your low end will only be sooo much. Quote
plug999 Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 I've exactly the same problem...TR6 were supposed to be a little bit on the tork side...but I'm disappointed. I have the standard needle at 4th clip (3td was too lean). First I've try with number 30 pilots but my plugs became really wet I was too rich from 0-1/4 throttle. I'm not sure that pilots number 35 will help... I've installed power reeds and reed spacer but I wasn't able to see the difference. Then I removed the airbox lid: better but not exactly what I want. I know that Toomey's aren't the best for low rpm's. Please help! Quote
Big Blue Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 i had t6's and i loved riding trails with them, once you get your bikes dialed in it will be alot better. Ive riding some trails with shearer inframes, and im going to cpi's now, Youll have to work the clutch some in the low r's but after you are used to it you wont even notice. Quote
plug999 Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 If my jetting is ok with 280 mains, do you recommand going to 300 if I ride with the airbox lid removed and a durablue filter? Quote
bigboybanshee Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 Youll have to work the clutch some in the low r's but after you are used to it you wont even notice. Ditto that!! I've got T-5's and I knew they wouldn't be "ideal" for trails but I wanted them anyhow...Once I got used to using the clutch more I've had no problems whatsoever. If my jetting is ok with 280 mains, do you recommand going to 300 if I ride with the airbox lid removed and a durablue filter? I think you should try the 290 first...if you removed the airbox completely I'd say go for the 300, maybe 310. JMHO Quote
plug999 Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 Thank a lot for your help! (because It takes a long time too re-jet and I'm getting tired!) I'll try the 290 first! Quote
plug999 Posted April 7, 2004 Report Posted April 7, 2004 So, if you shave the head or add a degree key, does it help the low-end? Is it dangerous for the reliability? Quote
DBLtapS Posted April 7, 2004 Author Report Posted April 7, 2004 I'm gonna go back to the stock needles. I will let you know in a few days how it works. Stock reeds, no airbox. Thanks Brian G Quote
DBLtapS Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Posted April 8, 2004 Stock needles did the trick. wow wee. Runs like raped ape now. Thanks Quote
Nighty Posted April 8, 2004 Report Posted April 8, 2004 is the stock needle richer? i'm currently on the 5th grove of my dynojet needles. and my lowend is somewhat slugish aswell. i still have the 25 pilots though. (t5's + boyesen reeds + K&N filters) Quote
Big Blue Posted April 8, 2004 Report Posted April 8, 2004 is the stock needle richer? i'm currently on the 5th grove of my dynojet needles. and my lowend is somewhat slugish aswell. i still have the 25 pilots though. (t5's + boyesen reeds + K&N filters) i would use your stock needles i had mine set on the middle clip. Quote
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