ScreaminShee01 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Posted December 26, 2003 CONCLUSION... both quads are fast.... you can MAKE a banshee faster, much faster.... 450 arent given enough credit... it depends a lot on the rider... anything esle? Quote
yamaha350 Posted December 26, 2003 Report Posted December 26, 2003 i have raced a few 450's against my banshee and they have never come close to winning. they are 4 strokes, it will take more than the bike is worth to make it as fast as a banshee built at half the price. Quote
q8bizkit78 Posted December 27, 2003 Report Posted December 27, 2003 guys i have a 450 with pro-tec pipe filter and jetting the 450 is a killer, with my shee vs my 450 the 450 sticks next 2 me till 3rd gear than i go ahead with the shee Quote
tats4life Posted December 27, 2003 Report Posted December 27, 2003 Got hp #'s darren's stock 450 pulled 46.3 on the dyno. After all the DR work, he said it pulled 66.4. That's what he said when I called him. I called the local dyno guy who did the testing, and he said those were the exact numbers. The were using a hoosier tires with 21.5 roll out. I haven't rode it since it was built, it pulls like hell outta the corners. Quote
Banshee crazy kid Posted December 28, 2003 Report Posted December 28, 2003 well heres what i think...a stock banshee against a stock raptor is pretty damn close..but truthfully i think the raptor wins thats a 660 though..the yfz is only a 450 and theres no way that the 450's power to weight ratio will make it that fast..its only a 450.. i may be wrong and missing something...but this bike really isnt as fast as its boasted about like i said a buddy of mine has one and my basically stock 03' banshee smokes it (really i only have the timing advancer ...i mean thats a hell of a difference but still) my buddy weighs about 170 and im like 210 on the track 450 hands down...but drag racing the banshee is coming out on top.. No, there i a way the banshee has two 175cc engines and in stock form they only put out about 15hp each making a total of about 30hp stock, The banshee basicly has two blater motors. The YFZ has one big ass titanium 5 valve 450cc engine and stock it prolly put's out about 42hp (i think).....I think that is why we are getting beat by these new comer thumpers stock v.s. stock. Plus ontop of all that power u got about a 400-450lb atv with gas and a rider...on the banshee u got prolly about 450-500lbs. This is just my thoery in why alot of us get beat by yfz's....I think to beat the yfz u would need a stroker kit,shocks,tire's, and maybe a pipe...............And yes gearing does take a toll....A 4mm sttroke is like $650,shocks $500++, tires(rear) $80, pipe $500++ All that might b a sure win for the banshee,but i have never seen it happen. I have never watched a live race with those new thumpers only vidz n shit... I may be wrong so if i am can someone correct me a lil Quote
yamaha350 Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 a buddy of mine was barely getting beat on his banshee by a 450 up comp hill in florence. and the 450 had the cam and pipe. his bike was stock with pipes. i can beat the 450 with stock stroke bike, no need for a stoker to beat one. i will see if i can find my pic of me racing one. Quote
boonman Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 No, there i a way the banshee has two 175cc engines and in stock form they only put out about 15hp each making a total of about 30hp stock, The banshee basicly has two blater motors. The YFZ has one big ass titanium 5 valve 450cc engine and stock it prolly put's out about 42hp (i think).....I think that is why we are getting beat by these new comer thumpers stock v.s. stock. Plus ontop of all that power u got about a 400-450lb atv with gas and a rider...on the banshee u got prolly about 450-500lbs. This is just my thoery in why alot of us get beat by yfz's....I think to beat the yfz u would need a stroker kit,shocks,tire's, and maybe a pipe...............And yes gearing does take a toll....A 4mm sttroke is like $650,shocks $500++, tires(rear) $80, pipe $500++ All that might b a sure win for the banshee,but i have never seen it happen. I have never watched a live race with those new thumpers only vidz n shit... I may be wrong so if i am can someone correct me a lil correct you a lil???? You need to stop blabbering nonsense. 15hp per cyl??? WTF is that? Basically two blaster motors? Well, if you want to start talking like that, than I guess the banshee is "basically" two chainsaw motors, except we have reeds... LMMFAO... You have got to be kidding me.... Quote
yamaha350 Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 my bike is the orange one at the top of the hill. i believe the blue bike is the 450. it has been a while so i may be wrong. Quote
Blue Duece Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 my bike is the orange one at the top of the hill. i believe the blue bike is the 450. it has been a while so i may be wrong. this shit is getting more stupid with each post.....dude are you serious? Quote
yamaha350 Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 what is not serious? i didnt take the pic it was posted on planetsand. Quote
Blue Duece Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 thats a pic of on guy riding up a hill on the gas..... the other dudes are putting......i notice the yellow limited shee is behind the "blue Bike"......for whatever thats worth......a 450 stock smokes a stock banshee...plain and simple........ Quote
yamaha350 Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 that was a flagged race at sandlake in oregon. we all left at the same time. Quote
Dragg-on Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 ya yamaha350, All that pic tells me is that your bike has much more mods than all those other guys. even the yellow banshee in the back Quote
Blue Duece Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 ya yamaha350, All that pic tells me is that your bike has much more mods than all those other guys. even the yellow banshee in the back is stock? Quote
boonman Posted December 30, 2003 Report Posted December 30, 2003 That pic just goes to show. Although, I am assuming that the 450, and the LE banshee that is BEHIND it, are both stock. It is blatantly obvious by the roost and position of the orange bike that it is modded. Quote
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