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I have my reasons sprink guys cusses out Canadians like he was paid to do it.. guy was a complete a hole to anyone that wasn't up to his standards merican or not...

Ya know ..I'll just say this. 》

That's a very childish position you're taking about a guy you know VERY little about.

Just think about how it makes YOU look.

 

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reputation for being a whiney bitch? who are you kidding... just cause I complained about X builder im a whiney bitch? just because I say the dude's a jackass im whiney bitch? just because I have an opinion that doesn't suit your "needs" I am a whiney bitch.. get real...

 

 

Reputation for asking a lot of questions... yea sure... its a forum for people with questions is it not? such as this one no?

 

so as far as complaining I dont see where you stand... Grow the fuck up and stop complaining about my posts like a whiney bitch.. you don't like them so be it.. suck it up buttercup..

 

and there is nothing personal as to what I mentioned?? the guy openly did this on the shoutbox daily.. it was no secret

 

 

also thanks for completely derailing this topic....

Don't forget about your bitching about your fireball a arms , hjr, socal, some used parts you got.. and who knows what else.

See a pattern yet?

 

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reputation for being a whiney bitch? who are you kidding... just cause I complained about X builder im a whiney bitch? just because I say the dude's a jackass im whiney bitch?

Yes and yes.

I don't make it seem like I derailed anything. .remember YOU started the trashing of Matt. Had NOTHING to do with the OPs question.

 

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Well, since misinformation seems to be the norm, I'll do my best to clear it up. I've said many times in threads around here than 90% of people won't notice the difference between axis and Elka.

 

If you look around you'll find a thread where I have had numerous customer service issues with Elka. They produce a great product, but support their dealers like shit. If you're not an authorized service center or sell large quantities of new shocks, they couldn't care less about you. It's not just me who has this opinion, I've spoken to many people in this industry who have similar experienced, and many who have the exact opposite. My most recent experience cost me $120 in overnight shipping to fix their mistake of sending me out completely the wrong parts when I gave them the part numbers, AND a photograph of exactly what I needed. $18 in parts...

 

Axis, on the other hand. Incredible customer service. They stand behind their product 110%, unlike Elka. If you have any kind of ride quality issue with axis, they will bend over backwards to make the shocks work exactly how you want, and won't stop until YOU are 110% happy with your shocks.

 

I've NEVER heard a single negative about axis' customer service, or product quality.

 

On a side note, axis uses higher quality components internally, in my opinion. I prefer their valving shims, pistons, and wear bands over Elka.

 

My main comparison, as I have put in writing in several places here, is strictly their customer service, though.

 

To the OP who asked how I've been doing. I'm doing OK. My cancer treatment is currently on hold. I've been going back and forth from California to Scottsdale, AZ every week for treatment at the Mayo Clinic. Most recently (3 weeks ago) I broke a rib doing nothing more than laughing, which prompted a bond density scan, which I hadn't had in a few years. It turned up severe osteoporosis in my spine and neck, and osteopenia in both legs. The doctors think its largely from being on corticosteroids and chemo for so long. I had a "pouchoscocpy" (think colonoscopy, but since I don't have a colon and a j-pouch instead,, it's called a pouchoscopy) and it revealed severe inflammation in both the pouch, and at least 30cm into the small intestine with active bleeding ulcers. He found 3 polyps that were removed and biopsied. We're still waiting on the results of those biopsies.

 

Secondary to GI issues, I've been seeing an endocrinologist about the osteoporosis, and desperately trying to figure out my immune system and why it keeps attacking itself. Over the last two months since I've stopped chemo I've been able to put about 20lbs back on, but once I start back on chemo it'll fall back off.

 

All in all the hardest part has been not seeing my wife and kid much as I travel back and forth from CA to AZ. I'm still really sick, but I'm trying to make the best of every day, because at any time it could be my last. That's probably good advice for anyone, sick or not.

 

I had the opportunity over Thanksgiving to spend some time with a 12 year old little girl and her family who is in final stages of bone cancer. No matter how sick I am, and how close to dying I am, it meant nothing seeing a 12 year old girl going through exactly the same thing I am. Having a daughter myself, it hit me hard. I had pretty much given up any hope of beating the cancer before meeting her. It's still not completely gone, but they've managed to keep it from spreading for the last two months or so. My body couldn't handle the high doses of chemo with all of the other autoimmune issues and inflammation going on.

 

As far as the business goes, obviously I have been unable to do anything whatsoever, and I feel terrible for the people who's shocks I have. I'm typically only home for 3-4 days a week, and I spend 2-3 of those sick in bed from whatever treatment they throw at me in the days prior. I don't anticipate ever opening back up, and if I do, I will probably only focus on the offroad racing and sand car/UTV side of things. That being said, the long travel bike will probably be up for sale in the near future when I can get some time to give her a bath and take some good pictures. It's been sitting under a cover in my garage since the Utah ride in June of 2013 and hasn't been touched.

 

So basically, yeah, most people won't notice any rude quality differential between the two brands. I'd you plan on keeping them long enough to need them serviced, or just want the baddest set of shocks you can buy from your bottomless pockets, go with axis. If you want great shocks for a little better price, and don't mind a company that doesn't care about you, or how well you actually like your shocks, go with Elka.

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Do I need to make it any more bigger for you to see.... All I said is that he opinion MAY BE BIAS AS HE HAS SOMETHING AGAINST CANADA among other people... please re read this sentence a few times so it can sink in before you reply again saying the exact same stupid frase accusing me of bashing a guy for no reason...

 

The reason I SAID this WAS BECAUSE HE RECOMMENDED AXIS just because... the OP asked what is better and why.. did my 1st post not answer his question? or oh wait.. because I dont get paid to work with shocks I dont know....

^^ bitch-talk. I don't have any more time for you todsy. Sorry.

You know and I know what's up.

Later.

 

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Wow, Matt comes here while dealing with some VERY HEAVY life issues and makes the effort to clear everything up and clarify his point of view. ......and you guys wanna keep jabbing at each other?

Thanks for the effort Matt. I have Elka dune editions and can't picture a shock working better for me. I DREAM of getting some Elka Stage 5's for my all purpose bike. But I completely understand and respect the AXIS endorsement. If YOU were going to be in the game and dishing out the advice when I was ready for that next set of shocks, I'm sure I would have you set me up with AXIS.

I love my Elkas.......I just with they could do an anodizing job that didn't turn pink after a year or two.....

 

Glad to hear from you again Matt. Good Luck with your battle.

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Matt, best wishes man!

Keep on fighting!

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to give your input.

 

I went onto Axis' site and filled out the order form

and within 1/2 an hour Micah from penskeshocks.com was helping me out.

He and I exchanged emails throughout the day and he answered a lot of questions.

For the terrain I ride, skills and weight, he recommended triple rates with Hi/Lo Comp, and Rebound, so like stage 4 Elkas.

The Axis shocks are ~$300 cheaper than the Stage 5's, hand built with better components by Americans in America.

I do plan on keeping these shocks for the duration, so they'll need servicing someday so shipping them out will be cheaper.

 

Thanks again Matt, and keep on keeping on and I hope you get well soon!

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So, I'm getting quotes on 19.5" Custom Axis triple rates w/comp and rebound adjustabilty.

Is Hi/Lo speed comp adjustability really worth the extra 300 bones?

I primarily ride dunes and XC.

The $300 saved can go towards a new +2 LSR steering stem.

 

So just to let everyone know Fireball LT a-arms are +2.5 +1.

They will accept shocks that are 18.75" - 19.5" long.

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