dunner250 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I have heard two different stories and I'm wondering which one is true. You take 2 bikes... say a raptor and a banshee for example. (One being a four stroke and the other being a two stroke of course). Lets say they both make 100hp on the dyno. Then you take them to the sand and drag race them, both have equal riders and are correctly set up. I have been told that 2 strokes make power differently and you need a little more hp on a 2 stroke to be faster. Then I have been told hp is hp. So who wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastyracing Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Dude I win . U loose for asking such a dumb question. RIDERS win races ! Not a particular bike or dyno number that's gonna win a race. 3000$ I can build a 100 HP banshee . 4 stroke world 3000$ won't buy u a well ported head with valves done ect and a cylinder let alone everything else you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunesovertrails Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think the banshee would because you hardly ever see any drag yfz or raptors all drag banshees and not because of money because some people with these drag bikes have money burnin a hole in there pocket, So yeah ima go with the banshee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1JUANstunna Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think I don't give a fuck! TITS or GFTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunner250 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Dude I win . U loose for asking such a dumb question. RIDERS win races ! Not a particular bike or dyno number that's gonna win a race. 3000$ I can build a 100 HP banshee . 4 stroke world 3000$ won't buy u a well ported head with valves done ect and a cylinder let alone everything else you need. I didn't ask about the cost or the better rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special06shee Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 It comes down to traction.. And yes a 4 stroke is a smoother kind of power and will plant it easier in sand IMO!! If traction was not an issue, id say whatever quad/rider was the lighter of the two, thats what would win!! This is just my opinion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 well..... 4 stroke makes power 1 time every 2 revolutions and it's a 1 cylinder... 2 stroke makes power 1 time every 1 revolution and it's a 2 cylinder.... 4 times faster power output. so technically a banshee would make a more consistent/smoother power delivery with less down time between power strokes. all drag races in the dunes normally start off wot. you can remove the argument of bottom end torque away. think of a 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke as a manual trans vs a override. the less down time between power output creates a faster bike hp vs hp banshee is the king of the dunes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 In my limited experience in sand,TQ wins races,not a high HP number. Yes i understand the mathematical relation between the two,but some guys can make a better TQ curve on their engines and win the race over a "higher HP" bike. But yea, the 4 pokes with their more "trackable " power/TQ delivery seem to do quite well up against a "higher peak HP" 2stroke equivalent . IMO. An when i say TQ, i dont mean a tractor/grunt style motor ,i mean a good drag motor thats not doggy or boggy when i comes to a healthy TQ curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicklez Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This must be stupid thread month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1JUANstunna Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This must be stupid thread month. ^ Believes this to be true. October, Start a ridiculously stupid thread month. Maybe November will bring some intelligent members with decent questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fappy'97 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 WUT? Drag YFZ's and Raptors all over the place. Yup. As stated before, they're just more expensive when you wanna go fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINDYCITYJOHN400 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think I don't give a fuck! TITS or GFTO LMFAO!!!! Only good answer. X2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanPNW Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Dumb ass question. And the correct spelling is DUNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunesovertrails Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 WUT? Drag YFZ's and Raptors all over the place. I've seen two within the 5 times i went to silver lake this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 this guy makes me want to snort bath salts and eat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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