bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 hi guys hoping you can help me out i recently bought a banshee, toomey tr6's, v force reeds, modified air box, stock carbs and head. when i had the bike delivered it rolled off the back of the truck and started first kick, went out for a ride and the bike felt as if it had good power, rode for about half a day with the bike starting on first/second kick until i shut the bike off for half hour. when i got back on the bike and tried to kick it it wouldnt start. so the next day i got the bike out and replaced the plugs, bike started after about 40 kicks and then would start fine until cold and im back to square 1. i noticed that when the bike was running the left cylinder smoked less than the right and not at the same rate, however the left hand exhaust got red hot, hotter than the right. so anyways i got the bike in the garage pulled the carbs reeds and exhaust, t.o.r.s. has been removed, got 2 carb rebuild kits stripped the carbs cleaned out and blew them out with air, installed the rebuild kit and set the floats to 21mm i believe, stock needles on middle clip, stock pilot jet, 300 main jet. i replaced the gaskets on the reed block to intake as they were a bit shot, you could see a few tiny specs of light coming through the carbon fibre of the v force reeds (will this greatly affect the bike ?). i also took off the coil cleaned the connections up and put 2 brand new ht leads in with new ngk caps, brand new air filter and plugs again. still no joy, i expected the bike to start right up thought it could have been the carbs made sure they were super clean, ive got big fat blue sparks from both plugs, and the plugs are wet with fuel. forgot to mention i did a compession test both cylinders were around the 115 mark, carbs are in sync and slides installed correctly and the crossover tube is in place between the carbs. dont know if im missing something the bike does not want to start at all i would apprciate any help or someone to point me in the right direction as im mega confuesd now lol. thanks guys alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach45 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 How did you sync the carbs of the bike don't run? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 How did you sync the carbs of the bike don't run? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk i synced the carbs by watching the slides move up and down and adjusted the screws on top of the caps until the slides moved up in sync, bikes got fuel spark and compression but wont start at all now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoOK Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Are you kicking it over with the choke on or off? It could possibly be flooded at this point Edited May 16, 2012 by VoOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach45 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 If you have compression spark and fuel... There is no way it's not starting. Or at least a hiccup... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 ive tried to start with the choke in all positions, bike is probally flooded after trying to start it for so long yes, but if the plugs are wet with fuel with good spark and 115 compession surely it should fire up before it gets to that point, i really dont know what to look at next, would seeing the specs of light through the reeds cause this problem ? could the case be full of fuel ? usually on a 2 stroke machine i can solve a problem through process of elimination ie. spark fuel etc. but the bike has me stumpted guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Petty Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Are you holding the throttle open at all when your kicking it? When I first got my bike I didn't think that the choke was working right but then I realized you just can't give it any gas when kicking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Are you holding the throttle open at all when your kicking it? When I first got my bike I didn't think that the choke was working right but then I realized you just can't give it any gas when kicking it. when the bike was running im sure it didnt need no gas it would just kick over, ive tried to start the bike with the throttle in various positions with no joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 pull the plugs out and let the motor sit for a couple minutes if worst comes spray some starting fluid in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkm2006 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Choke tube on?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 pull the plugs out and let the motor sit for a couple minutes if worst comes spray some starting fluid in it ive had the plugs out while ive done the work to carbs etc so its had plenty time to dry out :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Choke tube on?? yes choke tube is on the little bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Check for loose flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheealec Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Check for loose flywheel larry would this cause my timing to be out, or would i just not get a spark ? i noticed today that if i removed the earth from my killswitch i still get a spark, which i thought was weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 The crankshaft has a tapered end which the flywheel sits on.....IF the woodruff key sheared it is possible for the flywheel to rotate and semi tighten itself back onto the crank causing your timing too be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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