no gears, tranny or clutch proplem?

[Coco Peru]

Hi guys; you hace always been very helpful so here I am again.

I finished putting some mods on my stock banshee (fmf fattys, carbon reeds, k&n filter/proflow adapter and new jetting) and went for a ride on sunday.

 

Everything was fine for the first 20 minutes, then I started to feel something weird was going on with my clutch, I stopped and noticed some oil coming from one of the top small hoses and something smelled weird, maybe of the oil hitting the hot exhaust?

I tried to to ride again and It felt like it was slipping when I put 1st gear, it was difficult to make it go. I stopped and checked the cable and seemed fine, when I trying again suddenly I was not able to move the shifter at all; luckily it was stuck in Neutral so I was able to be towed back to the car. The engine runned perfec, I waited for it to cool down but nothing happened with the gears.

Back in the car I noticed that there was more oil in the place where I was warming the Banshee.

 

Any ideas on what could have happened, why there was oil coming from one of the top hoses? Maybe it threw all the oil out and something happened inside because of that?.

 

Thannks in advance for your help.

[Coco Peru]

Hi guys; you hace always been very helpful so here I am again.

I finished putting some mods on my stock banshee (fmf fattys, carbon reeds, k&n filter/proflow adapter and new jetting) and went for a ride on sunday.

 

Everything was fine for the first 20 minutes, then I started to feel something weird was going on with my clutch, I stopped and noticed some oil coming from one of the top small hoses and something smelled weird, maybe of the oil hitting the hot exhaust?

I tried to to ride again and It felt like it was slipping when I put 1st gear, it was difficult to make it go. I stopped and checked the cable and seemed fine, when I trying again suddenly I was not able to move the shifter at all; luckily it was stuck in Neutral so I was able to be towed back to the car. The engine runned perfec, I waited for it to cool down but nothing happened with the gears.

Back in the car I noticed that there was more oil in the place where I was warming the Banshee.

 

Any ideas on what could have happened, why there was oil coming from one of the top hoses? Maybe it threw all the oil out and something happened inside because of that?.

 

Thannks in advance for your help.

 

So no ideas,I will be opening the clutch this weekend.

thanks

Edited June 10, 2010 by Coco Peru

[Larry's Shee]

Is your coolant still full ? Have you checked the oil level, what did it look like? Could have waterpump problems, water would displace oil and damage trans. Pulling clutch cover is good place to start because most components of your symtoms are right there. Good luck and post what you find , lot of us are still learning. BTW , are you in Peru?

Edited June 10, 2010 by Larry's Shee

[locogato11283]

just curious, but how hot out was it when you were riding? what tranny oil are you using? i have seen the tranny case get so hot that it spews oil out before. were you able to shift your bike at all? it sounds like you need to tear off the clutch cover to check for any real issues.

[Coco Peru]

Is your coolant still full ? Have you checked the oil level, what did it look like? Could have waterpump problems, water would displace oil and damage trans. Pulling clutch cover is good place to start because most components of your symtoms are right there. Good luck and post what you find , lot of us are still learning. BTW , are you in Peru?

The coolant is still full, oil level is mid level, it was full and with new oil. The cluth definetly smelled like burned first and then came the gear problems. I will pull the cover tomorrow and let you know. Thanks.

And yes I am in Peru, lot of nice places to ride!

[Coco Peru]

just curious, but how hot out was it when you were riding? what tranny oil are you using? i have seen the tranny case get so hot that it spews oil out before. were you able to shift your bike at all? it sounds like you need to tear off the clutch cover to check for any real issues.

 

That day was actually cold and foggy, it started spewing oil a couple of minutes after I started the bike. I was able to shift for the first 20 minutes of ride with no problem. Then I noticed the cluthch problem and stopped to check cable, when I tried to ride again I had no gears at all, the shifter was in neutral and in a dead point, no gears up or down.

 

Thanks!

[fastquad02blaster]

Sounds like it could be either clutch or tranny issues. If the clutch wasn't working properly I would think it would still try to shift just grind or something. With the shifter being stuck it sounds a little more like tranny to me.

[Coco Peru]

Sounds like it could be either clutch or tranny issues. If the clutch wasn't working properly I would think it would still try to shift just grind or something. With the shifter being stuck it sounds a little more like tranny to me.

Well, I had to take the banshee to the mechanic as I was not going to have time to do this myself, he checked and says that the cluth is burned and also the "shif shaft" is broken. So we need to replace that shaft, cluth discs, stopped lever and some other bits like bolts and seals. So that explains why I had no gears and the problem with the cluth, is not that expensive to repair with OEM parts but my concern is why this happened.

I got the bike second hand and have used for a couple of times with no problem at all besides a stupid issue with the PB system; suddenly on my last ride all this happened together so I am wondering what caused this and I wonder if this is related to the oil spewing from this "overflow" hose. Could it be related? what will make oil come out thu that hose?

Larry´s Shee mentioned waterpump problems that could make water displace the oil, anyother ideas? this mechanic says that he has to replace this first and then check , that it can be something related to the forks but I am not familiar with that.

Again any advice will be apreciated.

[Larry's Shee]

Your mechanic would have noticed any water/coolant when he had clutch cover off. Can't be water pump. Maybe someone else will come up with an answer.