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So, you've never built a lightweight Banshee at all? Right? LOL at you trying to argue your useless opinion with "other Motorsports."

A simple NO would have sufficed. So your "input" here is actually less relevant than mine or JT's because we both have experience building lightweight bikes. Our knowledge of lightweight Banshees trumps your F1 whatever nonsense you keep posting about. Just because we haven't built something TT specific doesn't mean we don't have a general idea of where his build should start if he wants to achieve maximum weight savings. Thanks for helping me prove my point.

Curious, have you ever built a lightweight Banshee at all? Drag, TT, etc? Anything?

For friend's sake?

You're dead on. We are trying to help you save money because we've been there and wasted the money. As far as Whitbread goes, I don't doubt his fab skills one bit. They look very legit. But if he doesn't own or hasn't built a lightweight chassis/setup, his input in this post is basically useless.

Some of us walk the walk and others just talk it. There are only a handful of us that have experience with lightweight chassis and builds. Yes you have the guy that gets on here with ZERO experience on the matter and puts his two cents in. Most of us that have lightweight builds now have progressed from OEM to OEM modified to chassis bikes. If that's not enough experience/knowledge I don't know what is. But by all means, let's listen to the guy who doesn't like what he's reading.

Yes.

Well, by rebuilding the front section of my hillclimb chassis with chromoly, I saved 11 pounds. So, from OEM to full chromoly, I'm guessing 20 pounds or so.

Dollar for dollar, a chromoly chassis is the best bang for your buck. That's where you should be starting, if you have the budget. JT's build is not comparable. He has the means to make every single part on his bike lightweight. He just likes to use the OEM platform.

Yep.

Heavy OEM chassis FTW! You gotta get that power down somehow!

They still are.

Yes, you are. Instead of taking several people's advice on serious weight loss, you're doing all this research and nonsense with CF. Newsflash, hardly any 300' guys use CF. It's really not all that necessary. The people here with experience with light weight parts/bikes are trying to help you get the weight down and save money doing it. You're attempting to reinvent something that has already been reinvented and already has 73 newer/better/cheaper ways to do it. We're just trying to help you be fast.

NVM, you don't want the truth. I think CF sounds awesome!

When I rebuilt my hillclimb chassis, I shaved 11 pounds off that chassis, just by changing the front end. The money you're trying to spend is better spent in the big stuff.

If you're not starting with at least a full chromoly chassis, the rest is just pointless, especially when talking about CF.

I think before anything CF should be used, have readily available titanium parts built or acquired. If it's not being jumped, ti arms and swingarm will net you close to 10 pounds in savings alone. Then, there are other things, like JT Machining carrier lightening. Then, aluminum bolts.. In my honest, somewhat experienced opinion, CF is nearly pointless with all the titanium possibilities and other light weight parts.

Yea. No jumps = ti swingarm. That will be your greatest weight savings. Half the weight of chromoly for sure.

CDI is usually the cause of intermittent running issues if it's an electrical problem. Most coils I've seen either work or don't.

Is this a MX bike or what?

I can think of five DMs 10mm or under off hand that have had case issues. Sure, for a track bike that doesn't make a ton of passes they will likely be fine, but if you put a lot of passes on the bike billet all the way.

Knowledge isn't free.

Because he's smart and doesn't want to fix them 1,000 times for free.

I never cared for it. Where we rode it would only take about 30 minutes of riding for them to get plugged and the bike to run like shit. Sure, it's easy to pull them off, but I got tired of fucking with them.

So, this is what it's like to be split personality.