lol they were like that when I got them. I got extra tanks, shocks, pipes,hubs, a-arms, J-arms, intakes ect. I built my bike out of a pile of parts. It was a repo bike, the guy hacked it up when they knabbed it. I sold some other pipes and put New T5's on it to pass the sound test, and to have sparkies. I'll give that a shot. They are kinda solid, but look really bad in the pictures I did my window trim for my Nova on a wheel like that. Not sure if I could get these pipes to look that good though.