Frankthetank

hes saying do some leg work and search for a thread on here explaining the process

I will be there!

What type of riding do you do? Dunes, trails, open fields? 80hp in the trails doesn't do you much good unless you can somehow put that power to the ground.

I bought a set of Works dual rate steelies with reservoirs and I love them. They ran me about 800. You can't go wrong with Elkas though.

I built up my banshee this past winter and spent a good deal of money with FAST racing. I was very happy. They were always very prompt and forthcoming with information. After getting a +4 swingarm from him and riding on it I realized I need a longer swingarm. I had 7 days til my next ride and Jeff got it made and shipped to me in enough time to ride on a +6 swingarm. I was very impressed. Solid guy.

I second that about the round house carrier. I got one on mine and I love it. I have a +4 FAST racing mx style swingarm with the skid plate mounts for sale if your interested. I used it only 3 times. The swingarm is made of Chromoly and is built well. It does require the round house carrier. Pm for details if interested.

Sorry Cam for if going this far. I still love the motor and believe that you make a quality product. I was ready to leave this be when we talked last week but for obvious reasons it progressed much further.

Sorry, I was gone riding for a few days and don't check posts on here. Thanks Cam for addressing some of the issues that I had. Yes there was certain things I was disappointed with ( shift detent spring, jetting, having to spend money on a different head setup for temperature reasons, information about my motor as far as specs) and thanks for addressing those. It was very frustrating when I would try to drag race and would hit false N at a very high rpm and then hear the trans slam into gear. At that point I was worried that I would do damage to the motor having it hit high rpms many times in the course of the day. Not to mention losing those races. Which didn't have me happy. After ironing out these issues I do have a solid, hassle free bike that I can ride anywhere. When going about the build on this bike, I wanted a very solid 4 mil bike that could be very user friendly. Before banshees I was heavily involve with stand up jet skiis and spent lots of my riding time being a weekend mechanic to keep my ski running the way I wanted it to. That's why I sought out John. John is very passionate and knowledgeable when it comes to banshees. John's response to me when I said that I wanted a strong 4 mil build that was user friendly was Redline without hesitation. John recommended that I call Cam and pick his brain about the details and timeline. I did and was happy about what I heard and sent my motor out to him. At the time Cam had told me that it would be about a month turnaround time. I was happy to hear that seeing that I wanted to make a ride at the Badlands and show off the new motor. The timeline ended up being a month longer than expected, which bummed me out but I know Cam is a busy guy and I chalked that off to him being good at what he does and being busy. I received the motor, put it in and set everything up the way that I wanted. The carbs that I had sent with my motor were not the stock carbs from the bike but a different set. I told Cam that I hadn't had time to look over the carbs and if they don't work then just use a pair of stock carbs that he had. The carbs I sent him were junk, but he said that he was able to dyno with them anyway which when I received them back I was wondering how he got the motor to run off of them at all but hey I'm not an engine builder or have the expertise that Cam has. At this point I hadn't even tried to start the bike, I called up John and asked if I could have him help me get this bike dialed in. Meaning that I had completely changed almost everything on the bike, (swingarm, carrier, chain, sprockets, bars, grips, tors eliminated, etc ) because I see John's bikes and I am very impressed with them. I also called up Jay at IPS and asked if I could spend sometime on the dyno and have him look over the work that I did to the bike. Meaning carbs, tors elimation kit, float levels, pressurize the carbs and so forth. He said sure. We dynod it exactly the way it came from Cam. I put all of the recommended settings that Cam said in my good carbs. Jay was impressed with the motor and said that Cam did a solid build but was wondering about the carb settings. So I told him what it had and we adjusted it. To which Cam did note that he had made a mistake with the jetting. We ran about 15 passes or so and got it to where the jetting was safe for what I wanted it. THAT WAS WHERE I WANTED IT. So yes I did lose a little hp, but Remember I said that I wanted a user friendly motor, so Jay did it to what I wanted. I wanted to be able to adjust the air screw for any changes that I wanted to make and save the any major jetting to when I was at home. Besides that I wanted the jetting to be fat to put me at ease about blowing up a new motor that I spent money on. Jay did mention that I was very fat on my jetting but it was a safe motor, not saying that it wasn't safe before. But safe for me because I am still learning to feel and tune the bike out. Since then I have lowered my mains from 400 down to 380 and might consider going further down. Possibly to 370 mains. I ride in a wide range of temps and humidity as well as types of riding. Meaning, tight trails, wide open trails and yes duning. So, In no way am I trying to pit one builder vs another. Jay and John both made mention that they were impressed with my bikes performance. That's why I never mentioned names or anything like that. People made assumptions and guesses as to how everything shook down which they were close to the truth but not all the way there and then they like to interject their opinions. If people don't know the truth to things, they shouldn't assume. I just can't believe that we got to this point. Yes I was wrong about my comment about Cam starting with Matt Shearer which I did apologize for, but some people on here are just Haters. In conclusion, for me it makes more sense to seek Jay out and have him do any motor work because I can spend the same amount in gas to bring my entire bike down to him vs shipping for just my motor to Cam and by having my entire bike there I can fine tune it anyway I need. Not only that, but I was very impressed with Jay. Jay is a standup guy that is very knowledgeable about what he does and there shouldn't be anything bad said about him on here. He was just doing what I asked of him.

WOW Your a COWARD.

I'm done. You can think whatever you want. IM me your number if you want to talk

Tyler.... what am I lying about and where would it get me if I did. This concerns me and cam. Not you. I think you should spend your time doing something else other than worrying about me and my motor

Since I am so far from Cam, all I was saying is that I would have chosen someone closer that I could have brought those hickups I had to iron them out. I didn't expect to have to have the issues that I had. As far as Cam giving me the run around, he did give me some insight to the problems but those were not the correct answers to the issues I had. I do however appreciate the insight he gave me. Again, I don't want to say things on here and have them misinterpreted. But with the end product I am happy. Cam did contact me this morning and we did talk thru this ordeal. Cam and I have an understanding.

There isn't an issue.

Yes other than John there is just a few people on there that I know of. Of course I don't stand a chance against John's drag bike, but I have beat many other 4 mils

72 hp on stock carbs.

Yes I think you can run those pipes on a stock bike. You may have to play with your jetting to get the bike dialed in right. One thing to think about is that these are drag pipes. If your looking for trail pipes I would do some more research. Side note... If you get Cpis, don't wear shorts. A friend got roasted once.

Ok I have to stand corrected. I must have misheard my friend that mentioned Cam starting out with Matt Shearer. As far as my story about Redline, Yes I have a motor that rips. The guys I ride with are impressed with my bike. Yes I did have some hickups when getting the bike tuned in but after some minor work the bike rides even better. Cam did respond to each concern and gave insight. I don't like talking about people on here because there can be so much of the message lost thru interpretation and I have respect for Cam. If Tyler wants to talk to me about things he can.

sticks and stones Tyler... sticks and stones... IM me your number and we can talk about it...

Easy boys. Just saying in my opinion that there are other builders out there other than Redline. If I would have gone with one of the other guys I wouldn't have to spend more money fine tuning my clutch, head, Jetting or domes after paying huge price tag that I spent. Then after that I get the complete runaround from answers to legitimate questions that I have about my motor. And no I didn't hear that from Windy, it came up in conversation with someone else and I took him at his word. So if I am wrong then I am wrong. I'm a big boy, I'll admit that I could be wrong. As far as redline, I think he makes fast motors. But after my experience I would go through someone else. Tyler... I know that Cam is your primary source for engine building, but you have to be objective about things also. Also Tyler if you would like to chat sometime about my experience with redline I would be happy to.

Jay at Illinois powersports is great and would be my first choice. Matt Shearer would be second. From what I heard, Matt taught Cam at redline. So think about that when talking to builders. Jeff from Fast racing is also good. Don't get me wrong Cam built my motor but if I did it again I would have Jay do it.

Sounds good. Look for us at the beach drag area.

Time to open your wallet up. Things are going to get expensive very quickly. Your going to have to think about +4 swingarm at least, stronger chain, sprockets, 4 mil hot rods crank, cylinders, porting of cylinders, possibly bigger carbs, good pipes, a cool head, timing plate and this is just the start. I would pick the mind of a good engine builder and see what he has to say. Better yet I would talk to a few builders that way you don't just get sold on one builders view point. Certain builds are good for a specific type of riding. A cub motor might lack the low end that you want to use for trails, where as a serval might get you what you need as well as the higher hp. Good luck on the build.

As far as the stock looking head that was cut, Lane is making them and they are great quality. I just installed mine with domes this past week at Illinois powersports and Jay there did all the measurements and specs. He thought they looked great. I received the exact same kit that was shown in the first ebay add however I got it from the guy that builds them not Ray or ebay.

sounds good to me. I say we take a round on the go carts and try to get kicked out.

First off, search silver lake on google and see what you find. To get into silver lake you will need to buy roughly$50 worth of stickers to be legal to ride there. No getting around. spark arrestors on every bike 10 foot flag which you can buy at a store close by as far as age, you might need a permit saying you can ride a quad that is state endorsed If your a big 15 year old kid then maybe you could skate by without showing proof to anyone. Get the cert just to be sure If your going on a Saturday and its during the summer you will need a voucher to get in. Read up on that. Important Paddle tires would be a good idea also, but if you don't have any don't worry. You can still ride and have fun.