I have had the 660, widened and lowered with the 686 kit and cammed. Now if I had the choice to have 2 raptor 660s or 1 banshee for the same price and could not sell for profit. You better believe it, Banshee all the way, that is if you want something fun! The banshee keeps a grin on my face, but yet to find a 4 poke to keep my interest, unless racing, or modding.