I run the brat's on my old Zilla. The setup I used was the standard 18 paddles and I had a little over half of each paddle cut off in a stagger. That bike was running a +6 swingarm and about 65 HP. It launched hard and was a blast to dune with. Out of all the different tires I've ran (Haulers, Extreme Haulers, Sand Skate II's, Sidewinders, Sand Devil's), the Brat's were among the most durable. Presonally, I'm not a fan of the vulcanized paddles on the Skat Trak's, as some of them rip/tear apart. When I get the Banshee back together, I'm picking up a longer swinger and my next phone call is to Fullerton or Fun Runner for some more Brat's. I'm thinking about the Brat's in a 9 paddle configuration this time.