sanddragon2004

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we have them either for stock wheel hubs, or for spindle mount wheels. they are setup for stock shocks. or you can run them with marvin shaws. they are also available in -2" wide, and +2 forward for drag racing. narrow front end. does that answer your question? if not feel free to call and ask as many as you like 408 833 4131

For all 4 arms, complete with heims looking at between 5-7lbs including the heim joints. we have spindles that screw directly into the heims they weigh about .75lbs each the whole kit with spindles and arms and tie rods looking at 449.99 i dont recall what a stock set of arms weighs but figure quite a bit compared to these at 5-7lbs I would also suggest these be used on a bike that you either ride to the hill, or to the drags, but i would prob not due any heavy aggressive duni8ng with them. they are designed to be ridden through the woops of glamis and pismo, or where every your drag racing.

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4130 CHROMOLY ARMS SUPER LIGHT WEIGHT AVAILABLE IN STOCK GEOMETRY, AND ALSO MINUS -2 AND +2FORWARD! all billet tie rods with heim jointed rod ends. Everything comes powdercoated, with urethane bushings! I will have the spindles that go along wtih them in a few days. as well. 299.99 for everything you see here!!!!! got em in stock, what color do you want? chrome 149.99 more! we have them for the yfz 450, banshee, 250r, and 450r. ready to ship call today! 408-833-4131

I know you are friends with kevin, at least you have made it apparent. I dont want to get into a pissing match with you because we both know that will go no were, We would like to send you a set of our LONG travel a arms to try out and see just how confident we are in quality of these arms. A arms, Steering STem, Swing arm DRAG axle what ever you need CHROME/POWDER/CANDY, what ever you want.. We would be happy to send you one of each to install/ test. and try out to see just how high quality (or low quality, we will let you make that decision) it really is. Feel free to PM me, or call me any time. I will send all these ITEMS free of charge to you, If you are not willing to remove any of your supsension to install on your bike, Have one of your buddies or relatives or anybody you personally know that can give us feedback call me I will be happy to send to them. I appoligize if i came off as a sales hore that was not / never my intent. I am just so happy with the service and product I have recieved from fireball, In my opinion the best suspension i have ever used/sold/dealt with period. And i tend to be a little jumpy and edgy. I dont want to make enemies with you or kevin. We both have nothing to gain by doing so. please call us, and ask for ANDY 408-833-4131, or 408-333-9305 email [email protected] Monkey boy, The reason you prob had a hard time getting ahold of firebal way back when is they moved from LA to up near me out side of fresno. They are now a manufacturing facility and only deal to a handful of companies. and are not open to the public. I cannot speak for them on thier products then, but will offer you a LIFETIME warranty, on any product you buy from me that is fireball, including replacement parts for your old a arms, swing arms what ever you bought from them in the past. If you in turn decide you would like to try a new set of a arms. I will offer you up anything you need, and I will try to make it well worth your while. hope im not coming off as a sales hore again, just trying to do what ever it takes to make you happy. If i have to sell everything to you at below my cost and make no money it is worth it in my opinion.

now you are just reading into what I have said. I know for a fact kevin did not build the fictures. most of those fixtures are post Kevin. Dont beleve me, im sure "LARRY" can vouch for that. 400ex, yfz450, ds650,450r,banshee/raptor LT, all build post Kevin just to name a few, not including all the LT for those bikes, and DRAG for those bikes. R&D as we speak Long Travel Desert ARMS/SPINDLES DRAG a arms/DRAG Spindles DRAG Chassis/Double A ARM Long TRAVEL Banshee engine(loosely based yfz450 geometry) but what ever, not important, seems more like a FIREBALL/Sanddragon Bashing contest, why dont I let you win and be done with it. You are the bigger better badder suspension, Custom Creations is bigger better, lighter, faster, more reliable. My stuff is crap.

here is a set of bare chromoly arms we sell just to illustrate, no powder or chrome to hide any of the quality of welds or materials. remember i also said Fireball has been making heim jointed a arms for about 7 years? go to quicksands website and see when he started his company. it is in 2000. so for about 2 years prior these arms where being sold by many with many many heim joints out on the market. 300 a month times 7years. How many is that? to illustrate my point of the strength, this bike is riden by Melissa walker of ATP racing, one of our "Sponsored Riders" Pic taken at lorettas.

They look identical to me. Ill have to snap some photos to illustrate. Remember I said Custom Creations formerly of fireball, Where do you think he got the idea from? here is our chromoly heim.

What size ball joints do you use? I have 3/4" heims that would proably fit just depends on your thread size for the arms, they may be to big but u never know.

Yes i personally know him! I used to sell his product. Im sorry that you had a bad experience with fireball racing several years ago. I never said they where building a arms since 1985 they have been around since 1985. I have personally sold hundreds of a arms with out any problems what so ever yet. I have had nothing but good experiences with them, and plan to continue to deal with them. I would be happy to help you sell your fireball racing a arms, and get you replacement parts to repair anything damaged or worn. Feel free to give me a call i hvae many of the fireball parts for the spindles/tierods, and heim joints in stock. Monkey boy, im curios, what products exactly did you buy that you are so unhappy with? ultra cross a arms? how old are they? maybe we can shed some light on it. Rather then just say his stuff is crap what exactly is it that is so mediocre? he uses high grade chromoly and high quality heims and hardware so im a bit puzzled as to what exactly you think is so crapy? I have personally delt with alot of other companies and find his to be of the highest quality

Im not sure why you guys feel like bashing fireball? They are one of the largest atv suspension manufacture in the world. Period. Yes please take a pic of the heim up close. I mean i could be wrong, but if memory serves they are using the same heim that Fireball uses in their banshee/raptor suspension. as for them being weaker, Please every one that has a failed heim from fireball. As in a broken heim joint, or Stud, lets see a pic. O and Id love a show of hands of the guys that have had one of these heims fail under load, as in while riding? since their is such a big concern of them failing. I would imagine their are probably plenty since fireball has been shipping 300+ sets a month for the past 7 years? one of 8 racks in Fireball racings shop. FYI anyone intersted got about 50 banshee swing arms, and 40 or so billet drag axles iin stock as well. O and I will have in about 3 days 45 sets of drag a arms in stock.

Run to the government huh? design a few things and watch every one copy your stuff and sell it for cheaper and all that time you spent testing/developing going down the tube for some one else to reep your benefits you will understand why companies patent their ideas. FYI/ the R&D that went into designing those very $$$$$$$

Stronger then Fireball? take a look at the banshee/raptor heims they are identical. Fireball been making those arms for years. Must not be too weak if Janseen racing/Denton/ATV fourplay/Sanddragon/many others run them?

Fireball been around since 85, Fireball building heim jointed a arms for about 7 years. Custom creations started by kevin formerly a Fireball employee.

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So how do you like your new arms???????????????

Actually Roll was using a lower heim joint on their arms, and is now using ball joints. Why? could be the pending patent owned by fireball racing on them........

To date, We have had zero failures, due to a heim joint breaking, i think if you look at the heim joint we use up close and compare to the ball joints out their you will see why. very heavy duty chromoly joints.

I should have more details and pics on my site in the next week or so, figure price around 1499 for everything you need. intake, throttle body, throttle cable, filters, fuel pump, all nessicary hardware, jetting is a simple twist of a screw on the throttle body. cold starting is also that simple! they work very well on everything we have had them on.

maybe its not needed, im sure alot of things that have been built are not needed. like its not really needed to have long travel suspension on a quad but it sure is nice to have. he he. that bike was thrown together and put in th etrailer for the races at fallon. It was on its maden voyage, pretty much ran what was available at the time, New plastics will be on it next time out. after the motor is put back together.

If you wanted to cut up your LSR a arms, you could move the mounts out 3/4" but you may run into clearance issues with the top arms. If you are comfortable doing it you could easily run them with great results and no geomtry issues. We make ultra cross arms to work with the 450 shocks too.

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making a superlight drag a arm for banshee, yfz450, and trx450r talking about 5lbs complete I will be selling these for 299+9.99 shipping powdercoated, with urethane bushings, and billet tie rods. should have pics in a few days. just wanted to let yall know.

making a superlight drag a arm for banshee, yfz450, and trx450r talking about 5lbs complete I will be selling these for 299+19.99 shipping powdercoated, with urethane bushings, and billet tie rods. should have pics in a few days. just wanted to let yall know.