Thanks guys. And yeah I thought about some different pipes, but I sure do hate to give up the power. Thinking about trying to trade my 450r for another banshee that I can rebuild stock and just throw a set of T5s on it. If I can find someone to trade that is. But I'd definitely get more joy out of a stock shee than that 450. I forgot how much I missed the sound, smell, and feel that only a banshee can provide.