vforce 3 or carbon tech?

[Bajnok]

im leaning towards the Carbon Tech LT only cause of price...im looking for more bottom end power so thats why im thinking about the LT and not vforce 3....dont know much about either so any input on which is "better" would be great. thanks

[Erwin8r]

im leaning towards the Carbon Tech LT only cause of price...im looking for more bottom end power so thats why im thinking about the LT and not vforce 3....dont know much about either so any input on which is "better" would be great. thanks

 

Well, they sell more VForce 3 reeds than Carbon Tech's, so that might tell you something. I didn't really know much about reeds when I bought mine, but I knew that a lot of the real good-running bikes had 'em, so that's what I did... They are very high quality.

[locogato11283]

i say vf3

[Snopczynski]

im leaning towards the Carbon Tech LT only cause of price...im looking for more bottom end power so thats why im thinking about the LT and not vforce 3....dont know much about either so any input on which is "better" would be great. thanks

 

I say without knowing whats done to the bike, there is no way to recommend either setup.

[Animalman294]

I say V-force, reeds are always an improvement.............

[Snopczynski]

I say V-force, reeds are always an improvement.............

 

not necessarily in low end compared to a set of carbon techs. Its gonna depend on his setup though.

[Erwin8r]

not necessarily in low end compared to a set of carbon techs. Its gonna depend on his setup though.

 

True, but in the end, he'llprobably wind up buying both if he buys the Carbon Techs first... That's the thing with these dang-blasted Banshees--too much is NEVER enough.... :cool:

[Snopczynski]

True, but in the end, he'llprobably wind up buying both if he buys the Carbon Techs first... That's the thing with these dang-blasted Banshees--too much is NEVER enough.... :cool:

 

Carbon tech reeds will make more low end power than vforce reeds anyday. It just may not be worth it depending on your portwork, pipes, and carbs. Like I said, we need to know the setup.

 

I am amazed how many people on here just answer questions without knowing anything about the bike. There is no possible good answer to this, or accurate answer based on the fact that someone thinks they sell more vf3 setups, or they are higher quality. Period point blank, I have done dyno testing, and ride comparison tests on these setups. I have seen on some setups the carbon techs beat the pants off a set of vf3 cages in the torque and hp department. Like I said, we need to know more about the bike before anyone can give an ACCURATE ANSWER.

[Bajnok]

its all stock, i just like to climb hills so i figured might as well get carbon tech since it will be moslty low to mid improvement

[Snopczynski]

stock pipes too?

[Bajnok]

yea, by your response im assuming that im starting in the wrong place with mods lol

[okbeast]

meh not really. i'll let him speak though, he's got the dyno sheets we all just have real world experience.

 

aftermarket reeds are aftermarket reeds imo. the cages can vary some. hp and torque numbers dont mean shit in teh real world if you can't ride it or your bike isn't setup properly.

 

the best mods to start w/ on a banshee are usually pipes/air filter, and an adjustable timing plate (cuz they're cheap). Air in/Air out=mo power. For more bottom-end power bump your compression up with a coolhead or milling your stocker.

 

Edit: nothin against snop, but the dyno bullshit gets old after awhile

[Snopczynski]

meh not really. i'll let him speak though, he's got the dyno sheets we all just have real world experience.

 

aftermarket reeds are aftermarket reeds imo. the cages can vary some. hp and torque numbers dont mean shit in teh real world if you can't ride it or your bike isn't setup properly.

 

the best mods to start w/ on a banshee are usually pipes/air filter, and an adjustable timing plate (cuz they're cheap). Air in/Air out=mo power. For more bottom-end power bump your compression up with a coolhead or milling your stocker.

 

Edit: nothin against snop, but the dyno bullshit gets old after awhile

 

 

I have both dyno sheets and real world experience. I just dont get how you can answer a question without knowing whats done to the bike. Obviously you haven't read the posts on the reed setups that I did.

 

With stock pipes, vf3's will work better or be more noticeable. If you switch out to a mid pipe, or plan on building a more midrange oriented bike the carbon tech mid tensions will make more hp and torque than a vf3 in the midrange. Since the stock banshee pipe is such a top endy piece of shit the vf3 will work well. VF3 cages are made to flow on top, they lack the hp and torque you can achieve with a different tension reed everywhere else. I wont ever recommend a carbon tech high tension, because on topend the bike will make more power with a vf3. Down low, the vf3 cant compare to a different tensioned reed designed to open sooner and create more power and torque sooner.

 

Its not rocket science, it just suprises me that everyone says vf3 is the way to go on EVERY setup when its clearly not from all the testing I have done. Hell we ran a seat of the pants comparison on a 4 mill Patriot Racing dune port on memorial day weekend. The guy ran the vf3 setup for about a year prior to the weekend. We were tuning it and I put the carbon tech mids in it on stock cages, and he said the mid pull on it was better, the top end did not seem to change. He kept the carbon techs in it.