blue88lx Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Just picked up a 03 banshee at what I believe to be a steal. I test drove it yesterday and it fired right up, but felt like it had bad gas. Guy said he had year old gas in it, and it ran, just didn't run that well. Could go wot and it would hesitate, ping around, and then take off fairly well. Shut it off, told him i'd take it. Got it home today, put new gas in it. Forgot to put in the run position, flooded it out. Swapped plugs, old ones were sad. finally get it fired up, and it idles ok. Any throttle at all, and it falls on it's face. Just checked fire w/ a spark tester, and it is firing constant at idle, and when throttle is given, it starts blinking and shit. Any pointers on the cdi or stator? Just wondering if this is a common problem. Did the search, and came up w/ nothing specific to my problem. Forgive me for this being my first post, but I heard this is the place to go. BTW, Texas born and raised, 24, married, just talked my wife into a set of quads. Always had 200 honda 3 wheelers growing up, and polaris's in high school. Went broke going to school w/ my wife. Decided it's time to have some fun again. Thanks in Advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercalmighty Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Check the TORS and make sure the e-brake switch is working. I just had mine screw up on me yesterday. Thing ran great earlier in the day then went to take it out and did the same thing as you are descibing. I looked at everything trying to figure it out. Then I looked at the switch on the clutch perch for the e-brake and saw that it wasn't in all of the way. I played with it for a second and ran great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopar1rules Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 exactly, check the parking brake switch by the clutch lever. mine did the same thing. i assumed you had the parking brake on, while you were hauling it, which would explain why the switch is stuck and acting up now. while you are at it, clean those carbs and check the air filter. if it sat for a while, mice could of had the chance to build a nest, or bring unwanted seeds and such into the airbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILO Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) i would guess that it's the e-brake also. if you can't get it straightened out, unhook the e-brake. follow the wire from the perch to the junction under the rad cover and unplug it. you can also buy a block off plate so you can remove the clumpy assembly from the rear caliper, they are usually less than $10. by the way, welcome to the site. if you need anything for your shee, this is the place to go to. :thumbsup: Edited April 22, 2008 by MILO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 i would guess that it's the e-brake also. if you can't get it straightened out, unhook the e-brake. follow the wire from the perch to the junction under the rad cover and unplug it. you can also buy a block off plate so you can remove the clumpy assembly from the rear caliper, they are usually less than $10. by the way, welcome to the site. if you need anything for your shee, this is the place to go to. :thumbsup: Yeah, I figured it out last night. I checked the wiring diagrams and found the things that could cause the ignition to do that. I got it back up today, ran it down the street on new plugs. It is not running great down low, get up high, and it feels like I dumped the clutch and takes off like a bat outta hell. Pulled it in the garage, and it puked coolant now. Assuming it is running really rich because of the way it is in higher rpms. Waiting on a manual to pull the carbs apart. It has Bill's pipes, and an open lid airbox. Guy told me he put something 80 jets in when it was installed. I asked 280 or 380, he said he couldn't remember. I am new to jetting quads, doesn't look to hard. Trying to find a good place to buy a kit. Any pointers? BTW, any pointers on taming this thing down a little for trailriding? And also going to need jets to use up to 10k feet in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Forgot to add, it isn't idling worth a shit either. Old plugs he rode on for 6 months made me wonder how it ran they looked so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentner8 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Bro, go spend a couple of bux at sears and get a compression tester. They are pretty cheap, as in less then $50. Pull both plugs. Screw the tester into one of the plug holes, open the throttle wide open and kick it hard 20-30 times and see what the guage reads. Repeat for the other side. This will tell you where to start to figure out the poor running. If that checks out, I would then pull the carbs and clean them, especially if gas has sat in them for a long period of time. Doing the compression test will save you a lot of aggrivation. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Bro, go spend a couple of bux at sears and get a compression tester. They are pretty cheap, as in less then $50. Pull both plugs. Screw the tester into one of the plug holes, open the throttle wide open and kick it hard 20-30 times and see what the guage reads. Repeat for the other side. This will tell you where to start to figure out the poor running. If that checks out, I would then pull the carbs and clean them, especially if gas has sat in them for a long period of time. Doing the compression test will save you a lot of aggrivation. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I checked compression before I bought it, about 150 on both. I am going to clean the carb up and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Just checked tolerances and said compression should be at 130 or so. I have a crappy tester. Thanks for the info, i'm going to try and get a better tester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopar1rules Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 get a good comp tester. fuck the sears shit. get a snap-on or matco or mac tester. the sun pros don't seem to be that bad either. also, you shouldn't have to kick it over 20-30 times to check the comp. 6-8 good kicks is enough. absolutly no more than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougman1014 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yeah, I figured it out last night. I checked the wiring diagrams and found the things that could cause the ignition to do that. I got it back up today, ran it down the street on new plugs. It is not running great down low, get up high, and it feels like I dumped the clutch and takes off like a bat outta hell. Pulled it in the garage, and it puked coolant now. Assuming it is running really rich because of the way it is in higher rpms. Waiting on a manual to pull the carbs apart. It has Bill's pipes, and an open lid airbox. Guy told me he put something 80 jets in when it was installed. I asked 280 or 380, he said he couldn't remember. I am new to jetting quads, doesn't look to hard. Trying to find a good place to buy a kit. Any pointers? BTW, any pointers on taming this thing down a little for trailriding? And also going to need jets to use up to 10k feet in Colorado. tame it down??? haha its a banshee its supposed to be untame and crazy at all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 tame it down??? haha its a banshee its supposed to be untame and crazy at all times I guess I could have worded it differently. I'm wanting to get some of that power in the low end, even if I sacrifice it up top. I'm going to pull the carbs off and get a real compression test done tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I guess I could have worded it differently. I'm wanting to get some of that power in the low end, even if I sacrifice it up top. I'm going to pull the carbs off and get a real compression test done tonight. Well, got a craftsman compression gauge today at work. Got home, Tested, oooh, not so good. 100 on one, 60 on the other. Pulled the exhaust off, in the low side I see that the piston is chipped in between the ring landings, and a piece of the ring is gone. So what's everyone's opinion, I know I am going to have to bore and put a new top end, but what about down low? I also found a bolt (like the ones to hold the airbox, in the reed cage. God I got into a can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animalman294 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Well that explains the great price, now would be a good time to go through the quad and see what else is messed up............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue88lx Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Well that explains the great price, now would be a good time to go through the quad and see what else is messed up............... What do you think about the crankcase? Should I split it or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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