MILO Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 my swinger bushings were shot so i got a new pivot works set, but of course the damn pivot bolt wouldn't come out. i know that i greased it very well when i did it the last time too, but that was probably a few years ago. i pounded the shit out of that thing with an 8# sledge and it wouldn't budge, so i had to cut it off. $39 from the stealership for a new pivot bolt :ohmy: anyway, my biggest concern is whether or not i bent the frame some when pounding on things so i need some #'s if anybody has the info. the swinger is 8 11/16" wide, the new sleeve for the pivot bolt is 8 7/8", but my frame is now a 9 1/8" opening. is that normal or did i twist it up? i'm assuming it will pull in when tightened but it sure seems like a lot to me. does anyone know what the dimension should be from the inside of the left side frame to inside of the rt side frame? Quote
Bansh-eman Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 I'm in a different state then my bike so i cant go measure it for you but I doubt you tweaked it that much if at all. hitting the bolt while the rear end is still in tact would take a shit load to bind it u and bend it. Quote
LS1Inferno Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 mine was likt that too. i dont use greese i have some silver oily antisieze i put on them. it wont dry out like gress i dount you bent it either i beat the shit outa mine before i drilled them. itll pull together. Quote
MILO Posted April 7, 2008 Author Report Posted April 7, 2008 so it should be fine. well that's what i wanted to hear guys. thanks. :beer: i figured i'd use some sort of anti-seize on it this time too. the grease doesn't seem to do the job very well over a long period of time. Quote
NYUK Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 drill some eigth inch holes in the sleeve, and install a grease zerk on the swingarm tube itself. 5 out of 10 banshees i take apart are like this. the heat generated at that pivot point must be incredible to seize that bolt. Quote
MILO Posted April 7, 2008 Author Report Posted April 7, 2008 where and how many holes should i put in it? i'm assuming the zerk would be about the center of the swinger tube and the holes in the sleeve would be at the same place. Quote
NYUK Posted April 7, 2008 Report Posted April 7, 2008 just a few, 5 or 6 at different intervals. just enough to allow grase to squeeze in between the bolt and sleeve. it will never seize again. Quote
MILO Posted April 12, 2008 Author Report Posted April 12, 2008 so i have all new parts and just put the swing arm back on. is it normal for the swinger to have some play side to side between the frame or am i missing something? it's not twist like with bad bearings because i just put in a new bearing kit and pivot shaft, but i can slide my swinger straight left to right about 3/16". as i said before the sleeve is wider than the swinger but is there supposed to be a washer or something in there somewhere to take up some of the play? the microfiche for the stock set up shows a washer inside each of the thrust covers, but the pivot works kit doesn't come with any. i would assume that if they were still needed pivot works would have supplied them. i would assume that the swing arm should only move up and down, not shift side to side but i could be wrong. if anybody has any thoughts please let me know asap. thanks. by the way, my frame opening previously measured 9 1/8" and it's now 9" after the pivot shaft being properly torqued. which makes sense because the shaft sleeve (8 7/8") + the thrust cover on each side (1/16" each) = 9" so it's a tight fit that way. but the pivot shaft sleeve is 3/16" wider than the swingarm and that's where the play is occurring. Quote
fastbanshee8 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Posted April 12, 2008 so i have all new parts and just put the swing arm back on. is it normal for the swinger to have some play side to side between the frame or am i missing something? it's not twist like with bad bearings because i just put in a new bearing kit and pivot shaft, but i can slide my swinger straight left to right about 3/16". as i said before the sleeve is wider than the swinger but is there supposed to be a washer or something in there somewhere to take up some of the play? the microfiche for the stock set up shows a washer inside each of the thrust covers, but the pivot works kit doesn't come with any. i would assume that if they were still needed pivot works would have supplied them. i would assume that the swing arm should only move up and down, not shift side to side but i could be wrong. if anybody has any thoughts please let me know asap. thanks. by the way, my frame opening previously measured 9 1/8" and it's now 9" after the pivot shaft being properly torqued. which makes sense because the shaft sleeve (8 7/8") + the thrust cover on each side (1/16" each) = 9" so it's a tight fit that way. but the pivot shaft sleeve is 3/16" wider than the swingarm and that's where the play is occurring. Put the stock flat washers back inside the dust cups. I'm just guessing, but the reason that Pivot Works doesn't put the flat washers in their kits, is because they usually don't wear out. Quote
MILO Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Posted April 13, 2008 Put the stock flat washers back inside the dust cups. I'm just guessing, but the reason that Pivot Works doesn't put the flat washers in their kits, is because they usually don't wear out. it's not an issue of them being worn out. i've replaced the original stock set up several years ago with the same pivot works kit that i used this time and i don't recall what happened to those washers because i apparently didn't reuse them then either. if they need to be in there, i'll have to order new ones i guess. thanks bud. Quote
inthemail Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 i have the same thing goin on with my bone. while your at it, drill 2 or 3 holes in your pivot bolt and tap some grease titties into the ends Quote
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