cant shift into some gears

[bansheejoel]

i was at silver lake all day and i couldnt get it into 4th and 6th gear under load, and it would want to creep forward when i had the clutch pulled all the way in....do i have to adjust my pancake bearing or do i need thiner gear oil. im using gear saver 85-90w thanks

[bansheejoel]

????

[Bansh-eman]

would it shift fine in all the other gears?

 

creeping forward is usually the clutch needs o be adjusted, but there could be more with it not going into selected gears.

[bansheejoel]

before i put in my pancake bearing it shifted smothly into every gear. Yesterday me and dekker went up to silver lake and did some drag racing and when draging it wouldnt go into 4th and 6th under heavy load. But when i was just riding normal it would shift alot better into those gears. Also if my quad was in gear with the clutch pulled in and the engine wasnt started it acted like the clutch wasnt pulled in and it wanted to turn over the engine when i would try to push it. It acts like its not disengaging.

[bansheejoel]

anyone? could it maybe be that my clutch basket has to deep of groves and its not letting my clutch plates seperate?? any ideas??

[bansheejoel]

well i just took the shee out and did 4 HARD runs down my dirtroad and on a paved road and it shifts smooth in every gear. It only does it when it gets hot. Should i try another brand of gear oil or something? thanks

[Bansh-eman]

sounds like either a grooved basket, or the fibers are toasted.

[bansheejoel]

the clutch only has maybe 8 hours total on it....when i took off the old clutch i looked at the basket and there were some grooves but they wernt that bad...will any amount of groove make it do this? the only thing that makes no sence is that it only does it when its been ran for like a half hour or more.

[okbeast]

What kind of oil are you running?

[bansheejoel]

What kind of oil are you running?

bel ray gear saver....the only thing i can think of is maybe it gets to thin when hot or something hell i dont know whats going on its wierd. It shifts perfect when ran for like under 1/2 hour but when its ran for more than that it shifts difficult. Do you think if i turn in my pancake bearing a little more it would solve it?

[okbeast]

That would cause the fibers to grip a little more I think. Not sure how much it would help on the shifting.

 

I would recommend taking the whole clutch down and putting it all back together to spec and see what happens.

[bansheejoel]

thats true. Has anyone else had this problem, when the clutch gets hot it doenst disengage properly and makes it difficult to shift? At first i thought maybe it was my shift star but when its not really hot it shifts perfect. How exactly do you adjust a pancake bearing the manual doesnt cover it very well. Also...when you completly pull in the clutch with the engine shut off and in gear you should be able to push it easily right?

[bansheejoel]

anyone else?

[dekker]

Joel,

Its going to shift a lot easier running onthe road then it will in the sand under heavy load in my experience... Mine shifts just fine on the road to but when you get it in the sand it can be a bitch for some reason. Im gonna move my lever up a little bc with my boots I have like zero feel. I had my basket off last year and filed the grooves away

[BellicoseBanshee]

You may have a problem with one of your shifting forks. If memory serves, fourth gear and sixth gear share the same shifting fork. The shift drum grooves could be worn as well.

 

When was the last time the shift mechanism was adjusted for the correct shift shaft gap?