350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 I have 60 hours on my top end and want to run wiseco pistons would i need to hone the cylinders or anything or can i just swamp them out? how hard is this also? thanks Quote
theshee Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 Is there anything wrong with the top end thats in it? If its not broke, I wouldnt fix it. If you put a new top end in you have to see what bore you are at and get the pistons according to that. Ya know like 30 over 60 over or 90 over.... Quote
375hp banshees Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 if you do use them, i assume you'll get new rings, make sure you get the wiseco rings!! Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 nope nothing is wrong with the top end just i am planning on getting DMC 916 pipes VF3 pro design foam filter kit +4 timing andvanced noss machine coolhead with 21 cc domes i just dont know if the stock pistons can hanlde that im 4000ft above and with 22cc domes i only get 106 per piston and with the 21cc domes i get 127 so i was just wondering if the stock pistons well still be reliable and last long without worries which brings me too ask how well the stock crank hold up also any chance you would know what kind of power i well be making? thanks theshee oh and yeah i know what .20 .30 over is but i was wondering if i could just put wiseco stock bore in without any other work Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 if you do use them, i assume you'll get new rings, make sure you get the wiseco rings!! yes i would get new rings and break it in accordingly dont worry Quote
ClimbAnyHill Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 You can get away with it as long as your cylinder walls are fine. You can find the whole Piston kit with gaskets around $230. Try Magic Racing. I don't thinnk it's hard at all. Slide the cylinders off & remove the circlip holding the Piston to the Rod. Quote
375hp banshees Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 just making sure you get from wiseco... they are different than wiseco (i origionally thought you were going to use wiseco's you had laying around w/ 60 hrs on them) ...i've just seen people run yammi rings on wiseco's & its not pretty Quote
theshee Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 nope nothing is wrong with the top end just i am planning on getting DMC 916 pipes VF3 pro design foam filter kit +4 timing andvanced noss machine coolhead with 21 cc domes i just dont know if the stock pistons can hanlde that im 4000ft above and with 22cc domes i only get 106 per piston and with the 21cc domes i get 127 so i was just wondering if the stock pistons well still be reliable and last long without worries which brings me too ask how well the stock crank hold up also any chance you would know what kind of power i well be making? thanks theshee oh and yeah i know what .20 .30 over is but i was wondering if i could just put wiseco stock bore in without any other work If you do put a new top end I would bore it for the new pistons. Just to take out any scratches or imperfections in the cylinder walls. If you have the extra $$, go ahead and put new pistons in, could save you a headache down the road. About the crank, it should be fine with those mods. My wifes bike ran mods similar to that and the crank was alright. Also, if you dont ride in lots of water, I would just get a couple good pod filters with outerwares. Thats a cheap way to make a little more power. Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 yeah i found a wiseco kit and it comes with pistons, rings, wrist pins, clips, wrist pin bearings, and top end gasket kit for 169.99 Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 If you do put a new top end I would bore it for the new pistons. Just to take out any scratches or imperfections in the cylinder walls. If you have the extra $$, go ahead and put new pistons in, could save you a headache down the road. About the crank, it should be fine with those mods. My wifes bike ran mods similar to that and the crank was alright. Also, if you dont ride in lots of water, I would just get a couple good pod filters with outerwares. Thats a cheap way to make a little more power. yeah pod filters is a big no no lol lots of water and mod Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 I go riding sometimes with a 5mm cub with drag pipes and duneable override trans and he does fine with pod filters.He just stays away from the water tho.But if it mud only and you can avoid water I say go for it.Ofcousre the mud I ride is the type of mud that is Dry and sticks on to your bike :: Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 no the mud and water i ride is up to the seat and there is hardly ever a way around it Quote
shanYE west Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) The stock pistons use a tighter piston/cylinder gap then a wiseco. The piston gap needs to be corrected for the wiseco's or you'll have cold seizing. (the piston gap will be too tight) Edited September 10, 2007 by Fouledout421 Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 so its not worht it until it needs to be done? ill be safe to ride with the stock pistons and crank Quote
350BANSHEE350 Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 how much reliability would i lose with these mods? Quote
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