Coolant help needed

[donny]

also i didn"t no there was a difference between antifreeze and coolant lol

also this bike will not run if i leave the air box cover on latched down it can"t get enough air i guees i take it off and it screams lol

[dajogejr]

Possible stripped gear on the WP, or the impeller is coming apart as well.

It could be sealed but not circulating coolant properly, causing it to overflow.

 

BansheeDan just found out his water pump was shot, bike ran real hot...but, it wasn't leaking coolant anywhere...

 

Get the coolant fixed first, then worry about the airbox lid and your jetting...

[donny]

A friend had the same problem, blew the coolant reservoir bottle cap and coolant soaked the back of the bike. Pulled the head off and found a faulty O-ring. That is the only experience I have with your problem.

thank you i didn"t no there were o rings under the head it"S self , so thank you

[dajogejr]

thank you i didn"t no there were o rings under the head it"S self , so thank you

 

If it is a stock head, there isn't. Unless someone had it cut to accept orings...unlikely in your case.

Unless you have an aftermarket head (cool head, pro design, etc.)...

[donny]

If it is a stock head, there isn't. Unless someone had it cut to accept orings...unlikely in your case.

Unless you have an aftermarket head (cool head, pro design, etc.)...

i have never had it off only the engine machine shop , and yahama junior racing team has worked on or even seen if fayetteville ARK so i guess i need to take it off

[donny]

i have never had it off only the engine machine shop , and yahama junior racing team has worked on or even seen if fayetteville ARK so i guess i need to take it off

also i did take w pump inspection cover off and looked at the impeller it looked all good but seemed have maybeen rubbing or spinning against the cover it"s self cause there was a round circular scrapping on the meddal cover it"s self from the plastic impeller , also kicked the bike over with cover off and it turned

[BellicoseBanshee]

thank you i didn"t no there were o rings under the head it"S self , so thank you

If it is a stock head, there isn't. Unless someone had it cut to accept orings...unlikely in your case.

Unless you have an aftermarket head (cool head, pro design, etc.)...

Sorry, I should have been more specific, it is an aftermarket head (modquad).

 

EDIT: Referring to my first post, my friend has the aftermarket modquad head. Sorry for the confusion, it's early! :turned:

[donny]

Sorry, I should have been more specific, it is an aftermarket head (modquad).

i don"t think it it a coolhead ort ect , if headgasket is blown what is the easiest way to tell , or if water pump how can i spend the least amount of money and no for sure any ideas on going this route i will go check head bolt torque right now before i post again on the ok ! thank you for your patience

[dajogejr]

It's gonna cost you 50 bucks to check.

 

10 to 15 for the clutch cover side gasket. 9 for coolant. 5 to 10 for gear oil. 20 for a new set of Orings for your head.

Plus your time....

 

You can pay a little now and guess, or pay more later...

 

Then it'll cost you 10 to 30 for spark plugs and jets to get that figured out.

[donny]

It's gonna cost you 50 bucks to check.

 

10 to 15 for the clutch cover side gasket. 9 for coolant. 5 to 10 for gear oil. 20 for a new set of Orings for your head.

Plus your time....

 

You can pay a little now and guess, or pay more later...

 

Then it'll cost you 10 to 30 for spark plugs and jets to get that figured out.

well i use 10w30 motor oil not any kind of gear oil in my bike that i no of, but what i ment was can"t i do a compression check to see if head gasket is leaking before spending lots of $$$

[donny]

well i use 10w30 motor oil not any kind of gear oil in my bike that i no of, but what i ment was can"t i do a compression check to see if head gasket is leaking before spending lots of $$$

also why would i re jet the bike and or change spark plugs all i relly need to do is figure out this coolant problem bike runs great , the old air box cover had 2 inch holesaw holes in it to get it to run so no cover just filter will be ok won"t it?????

[dajogejr]

well i use 10w30 motor oil not any kind of gear oil in my bike that i no of, but what i ment was can"t i do a compression check to see if head gasket is leaking before spending lots of $$$

 

Nope, sorry. Dissasembly and inspection time. A compression tester will tell you cranking compression, the tester has a check valve in it...it will not check "bleed down"...

And who's to say it doesn't start leaking when the motor is cold OR hot.

A leak down tester (25 to 50 bucks) won't tell you if a head O ring is leaking...only that your losing pressure somewhere, so you're back to dissasemble and inspect.

 

 

also why would i re jet the bike and or change spark plugs all i relly need to do is figure out this coolant problem bike runs great , the old air box cover had 2 inch holesaw holes in it to get it to run so no cover just filter will be ok won"t it?????

 

You said it won't run with the cover on. 2 holes and a lid removed are two different things. Figure out how you want to run your airbox/lid...and jet it accordingly. Don't assume just because the setup ran good on one bike, it automatically will on another.

 

At the very, very least...once you get your coolant issue sorted, buy new plugs and do a proper plug chop.

Follow these instructions...

http://www.dfn.com/benkaren/plugchop.html

 

I know you're trying to do this with as little effort and $$ as you can. But trust me...you can go broke saving money.

 

Fix it right, cover your bases, you'll be happier longer, promise!!

[BellicoseBanshee]

also this bike will not run if i leave the air box cover on latched down it can"t get enough air i guees i take it off and it screams lol

also why would i re jet the bike and or change spark plugs all i relly need to do is figure out this coolant problem bike runs great , the old air box cover had 2 inch holesaw holes in it to get it to run so no cover just filter will be ok won"t it?????

The airbox lid holds the stock filter cage in place, so you cannot just remove the lid and run it. You will either need to buy the filter/adapter plate assembly or use self-tapping screws to hold the stock cage to the airbox.

 

The reason dajogejr is telling you to spend a few bucks on some plugs is simple:

 

spark plugs and plug chop = not much money

replacing the top end because you think it is fine = much money

[donny]

The airbox lid holds the stock filter cage in place, so you cannot just remove the lid and run it. You will either need to buy the filter/adapter plate assembly or use self-tapping screws to hold the stock cage to the airbox.

 

The reason dajogejr is telling you to spend a few bucks on some plugs is simple:

 

spark plugs and plug chop = not much money

replacing the top end because you think it is fine = much money

i retorqued the head bolts to 20 ft pounds and in proper scquence aswell, they all turned at least well how should i say this ,,,,on a 5 sided nut they all turned atleast to the where the next side would be so a 5th of a turn atleast !

[dajogejr]

i retorqued the head bolts to 20 ft pounds and in proper scquence aswell, they all turned at least well how should i say this ,,,,on a 5 sided nut they all turned atleast to the where the next side would be so a 5th of a turn atleast !

 

Honestly, Donny...at this point, you've asked for our help. Were' giving you that...if you're going to do it on your own your own way, fine...but why bother asking us if you're gonna do something else.

 

That 1 or 2 ft. lbs you may have just did for free isn't going to do a thing.....

 

It is time to tear it down and look, or pay the bigger price later...your call.