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Hi all, I use Redline's Water Wetter in ALL my vehicles, mainly for corrosion protection (the cars sit a lot), BUT I have also noticed a slight cooling temp decrease...

 

Does anyone use it in their 'Shee ??? Any pros / cons ???

 

TIA ~DaVe

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we've tried water wetter and it is no where as good as engine ice when it comes to lowering engine temps.also if not mixed with anti freeze it will freeze.so if you have to still mix with anti freeze why even bother with it? engine ice will keep from freezing if used pure strength as it is supposed to be.just my 2 cents .

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As far as not being as good, thats all in your head. It does the exact same thing as Engine Ice (they're both surfactants). All it does is lower the surface tension of the coolant. So when you get hotspots that boil off coolant, instead of big bubbles forming that cling to the surface until they get big enough to float away, you have tons of little bubbles that can't cling. Big air bubbles keep water from touching the surface, which means more heat can build up.

 

Engine Ice is a pre-mixed antifreeze/water/surfactant mix. Water Wetter is just the surfactant. You make your own coolant with water wetter.

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As far as not being as good, thats all in your head. It does the exact same thing as Engine Ice (they're both surfactants). All it does is lower the surface tension of the coolant. So when you get hotspots that boil off coolant, instead of big bubbles forming that cling to the surface until they get big enough to float away, you have tons of little bubbles that can't cling. Big air bubbles keep water from touching the surface, which means more heat can build up.

 

Engine Ice is a pre-mixed antifreeze/water/surfactant mix. Water Wetter is just the surfactant. You make your own coolant with water wetter.

 

Engine Ice doesnt offer freeze protection either. I think it says something like its safe at 32 degrees (somewhere around there). Im glad I dident put it in my radiator for the winter as it has been below zero lately I use the 50/50 Maxima blend in the winter and Im going to use engine Ice in the summer.

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Engine Ice doesnt offer freeze protection either. I think it says something like its safe at 32 degrees (somewhere around there). Im glad I dident put it in my radiator for the winter as it has been below zero lately I use the 50/50 Maxima blend in the winter and Im going to use engine Ice in the summer.

 

sorry man but we run it and its all thats in it year round.it does offer freeze protection.this is from the engine ice website :Engine Ice Hi-Performance Coolant is biodegradable, phosphate free & non-toxic; while reducing operating race temperatures by as much as 50

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Blueshee is speakin the truth.. Thats one of the reasons the engine ice appeals to me is it has good freeze protection. Water wetter or whatever, I hear is good stuff.. But why mess with mixin all that crap(water, water wetter,anti freeze) when you can buy engine ice and be done with it all.. Again different strokes for different folks but I think all around engine ice is the shit to be used..

 

RIPPEN

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Blueshee is speakin the truth.. Thats one of the reasons the engine ice appeals to me is it has good freeze protection. Water wetter or whatever, I hear is good stuff.. But why mess with mixin all that crap(water, water wetter,anti freeze) when you can buy engine ice and be done with it all.. Again different strokes for different folks but I think all around engine ice is the shit to be used..

 

RIPPEN

Because in the summer you can mix water with water wetter, and skip the anti-freeze. That will give you the best possible protection, better than engine ice.

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Because in the summer you can mix water with water wetter, and skip the anti-freeze. That will give you the best possible protection, better than engine ice.

Huh... I didn't seem to have any problem with over heating all summer other than when it was SUPER hot at St. A's and we were riding WITH the wind.. In that case I don't think any coolants gonna stop that..

 

RIPPEN

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Huh... I didn't seem to have any problem with over heating all summer other than when it was SUPER hot at St. A's and we were riding WITH the wind.. In that case I don't think any coolants gonna stop that..

 

RIPPEN

I didn't say you would notice it. :thumbsup: But anti-freeze does cool worse, it can't transfer as much heat as fast as water.

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Huh... I didn't seem to have any problem with over heating all summer other than when it was SUPER hot at St. A's and we were riding WITH the wind.. In that case I don't think any coolants gonna stop that..

 

RIPPEN

 

I think what he means is that water transfers heat much more efficiently than ethyl glycol, thus water + water weeter could technically be better if you didn't have to worry about cold temperatures.

 

I personally run water wetter and DI water in my bikes, but I live in SoCal where it doesn't freeze. I choose to do this for a couple of reasons, the first being that water wetter was the first mainstream product like this that came out and I have been using it since it came out. The second being that I read the label on a bottle of engine ice once and I remember seeing something that I didn't like, although I cannot remeber what it was. I may give engine ice a shot the next time I have to drain the cooling system. :thumbsup:

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I didn't say you would notice it. :thumbsup: But anti-freeze does cool worse, it can't transfer as much heat as fast as water.

 

That's correct!! It has everything regular antifreeze has minus freeze protection. If you can live without freeze protection, nothing will cool better.

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I think what he means is that water transfers heat much more efficiently than ethyl glycol, thus water + water weeter could technically be better if you didn't have to worry about cold temperatures.

 

I personally run water wetter and DI water in my bikes, but I live in SoCal where it doesn't freeze. I choose to do this for a couple of reasons, the first being that water wetter was the first mainstream product like this that came out and I have been using it since it came out. The second being that I read the label on a bottle of engine ice once and I remember seeing something that I didn't like, although I cannot remeber what it was. I may give engine ice a shot the next time I have to drain the cooling system. :thumbsup:

I guess I could see runnin it if freeze protection wasn't a issue.. Otherwise its just less hassle to run one product all year round..

 

RIPPEN

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Otherwise its just less hassle to run one product all year round..

 

RIPPEN

 

I agree. If I wind up moving back up North, I will definitely being using Engine Ice. :thumbsup:

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