06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 My neighbors bansee wont turn on.The guy he took it to said it doesnt turn on because it was to rich and he was gunna lean it out a little more on sunday when we go ride.It turns on if I push start it.He says its because it to rich.Does this sound right??Its an 06 same mods as mine except no porting. Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 Not shure ill ask him when I go over his house later on.It seems weird dat a bike will only turn on if you push it beacause it is to rich.After when its on it turns on fine.I called the shop that does my bike and they told me the same exact shit that its prolly to rich that he needs to tune it to lean it out a bit.Im pretty shure its not compreshion either cause its an 06 Quote
r/atvshee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 my dad had this same problem. we thought it was the intake,jetting,ect. If it was rich it would still start but it would be harder to. Our problem was the coil,but im sure were not 100% fixed on it. But check your coil or anything electrical. it might not be getting spark Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 my dad had this same problem. we thought it was the intake,jetting,ect. If it was rich it would still start but it would be harder to. Our problem was the coil,but im sure were not 100% fixed on it. But check your coil or anything electrical. it might not be getting spark Do you think he needs a new one?The bike is an 06.About how much will a new or used one go for. Quote
r/atvshee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 im not exactly sure if this is his problem of why it wont start but it sounds close. a new coil runs for around 60, but if its not the problem then he should be able to take it back Quote
fox_forma Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 if it is jetting related, most likely he is running lean if it wont kick over but it will pop start. Try turning the air screw in a turn and see if it helps. Quote
sgt seth Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Do you think he needs a new one?The bike is an 06.About how much will a new or used one go for. I'm no pro or anything but if the bike is running after the start and running fine, that wont be an electrical problem. It is having trouble starting. If it stalls out can he kick it to life or do you still need to jump start it? Sounds like its just running too rich and needs to be tuned leaner to me... Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 im not exactly sure if this is his problem of why it wont start but it sounds close. a new coil runs for around 60, but if its not the problem then he should be able to take it back He told me that the guy were he took his bike told him it was to "RICH".I guess he should be right because they are the mechanics but to me it sounds like his carbs are dirty.When we push started it his bike ran hard tho.Also after he has it warm it will turn on Right away. Quote
sgt seth Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 He told me that the guy were he took his bike told him it was to "RICH".I guess he should be right because they are the mechanics but to me it sounds like his carbs are dirty.When we push started it his bike ran hard tho.Also after he has it warm it will turn on Right away. Try kicking it to life, and when it fails, pull out the plugs, see if they are wet or not. If wet, its flooding out. If you want to check the coil before hand, pull out a plug at a time and see if you get a spark against the cylinder. That should clear up your questions about that. Just dont do it when the plugs are wet. Hah Quote
r/atvshee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Try kicking it to life, and when it fails, pull out the plugs, see if they are wet or not. If wet, its flooding out. If you want to check the coil before hand, pull out a plug at a time and see if you get a spark against the cylinder. That should clear up your questions about that. Just dont do it when the plugs are wet. Hah I yea but thats when the coil comes in because it might not be getting a hot enough spark to ignite :shrug: . If you going to test for spark take out the spark plug but leave it in the cap. ground it against the head and kick it hard. You might need two people to do this. and whoever the lucky one is to hold the sparkplug will get a little zap lol. but dont do it when the spark plug is wet like sgt seth said :thumbsup: Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 Try kicking it to life, and when it fails, pull out the plugs, see if they are wet or not. If wet, its flooding out. If you want to check the coil before hand, pull out a plug at a time and see if you get a spark against the cylinder. That should clear up your questions about that. Just dont do it when the plugs are wet. Hah Took out the plugs....HOLY SHITT...They were wet and black.they were brand new plugs to.Is that a sigh of it being rich...Its gunna get tuned on saturday now not sunday.I really wish we can find out the problem tho tonight...I am a rookie at this and hes even worse.How do I check if I am getting spark of the coil?? Quote
sgt seth Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Took out the plugs....HOLY SHITT...They were wet and black.they were brand new plugs to.Is that a sigh of it being rich...Its gunna get tuned on saturday now not sunday.I really wish we can find out the problem tho tonight...I am a rookie at this and hes even worse.How do I check if I am getting spark of the coil?? Take the spark plug out, leave the end cap on it. Rest the bottem of the plug against the cylinder fins and have your buddy kick start it. You will see the electircal arch to the cylinder. That means you have good fire. Thats what ignites the fuel mix. Do it to both cylinders seperately. Make sure that it is clean and dry so you dont catch yourself or your buddies bike on fire. Would be cool to see but not to have happen. Heh. What I do with snowsleds is just take a cigarette lighter and burn the wetness off of the plugs and then wipe them off on a rag. You are flooding the engine out, too much fuel mix and not enough air will not allow it to combust. It is combusting when you jump start it because the coil sends multiple sparks, more then when you kick start it. That is what is igniting it and why you are running shitty. Once the plugs clean and you run it, everything heats up, causing the mix to ignite easier. Thats jut my 2cents, correct me where needed anyone. -seth Quote
r/atvshee Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 wet and black plugs.thats pretty rich. do you know what his mods are or if its stock and maybe others can chime in and help out with the jetting Quote
x the big hit x Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 im pretty sure if hes running rich he cant have stock jets. if he has mods and stock jets he'll be lean..try taking the carb apart and cleaning it.if he has mods and re-jetted get a smaller main.make sure the float and everything is working properly.mess with the air screw a little see if that makes any difference.you also could have fouled a plug might wanna get some new ones. i could be wrong..just my thoughts. :thumbsup: Quote
06BaNsHeE Posted November 9, 2006 Author Report Posted November 9, 2006 15t sprockets wickedatv head with 19cc domes timing plate cpis Tors removal kit Idle kit You guys think its not turning on because its to rich?Im going to check for spark now. Quote
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