sandman121383 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 (edited) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/yamaha-bans...579730773QQrdZ1 WTF? i thought Rocket didn't make out of frame drag pipes. if they do sorry i'm a dumbass. but just thought i'd give mikina and fireman or whoever the hell makes / owns them that theres someone sellin their name brand pipes. again if i'm wrong i apologize. just givin a heads up to the HQ and it's members. he does have good feedback. and could be one of them guys ebay name. i dunno i don't know ne of their ebay names. Edited October 9, 2005 by sandman121383 Quote
locogato11283 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 pretty much a grr suicide pipe...not sure who is sellin these...rocket company is so f**ked up right now martha stewart might be runnin shit for all i know Quote
blueshee03 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 rocket used to make out of frame pipes and the rocket pipes and a few others look very much like a copy of grr pipes to me.suprrat is a member over at planet sand.i have dealt with him and had no problems. Quote
locogato11283 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 rocket used to make out of frame pipes and the rocket pipes and a few others look very much like a copy of grr pipes to me.suprrat is a member over at planet sand.i have dealt with him and had no problems. 424270[/snapback] it was explained to me that rockets eveolved out of the grr suicide pipes.same pipes just one is outframe and one is inframe..grr never got around to makin the inframes because someone supposedly took off and started makin them on thier own... Quote
sandman121383 Posted October 9, 2005 Author Report Posted October 9, 2005 good explanation guys. just thought i'd bring it to the attention of whoever the owners were incase they would have to go after that person selling them. i'm a member on planet sand too, just not on there much at all. case solved. loco i wouldn't be surprised if martha threw on the weldin mask and laid a few beads! lol Quote
brock_fuzzy_69 Posted October 9, 2005 Report Posted October 9, 2005 pretty much sums it up tyler you can now get a set of GRR pipes inframe as well its a new suicide inframe pipe that andy just came out with in the last few months i would have to say as good as rockets are supposed to preform GRR has a lot better understanding of how to make one hell of a pipe and the design is newer than the standard rocket pipe design oh and the new inframes wont burn your legs off either Quote
ROCKETMAN29 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 Those pipes on e-bay were designed by Ron Borrink, i built them a few years ago and sold many sets to andy weeks of grr, the ones in the picture i sold to dan sands of sands motorsports in holland Mi,great guy and very good motor builder by the way, those pipes were hydroformed, (custom Built) i dont think there much different than suicide pipes, those are what andy had his pipes made from, every set of out of frame suicide pipes that are out there, the original designer Ron Borrink, never seen a dime for so in my mind andy weeks is a thief and i wouldnt let him near any thing of mine! Quote
ROCKETMAN29 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 it was explained to me that rockets eveolved out of the grr suicide pipes.same pipes just one is outframe and one is inframe..grr never got around to makin the inframes because someone supposedly took off and started makin them on thier own... 424284[/snapback] thats what andy did to us tokk the pipes we made called them suicide pipes and had a die made, if he wouldnt have went behind our backs on the out of frames the rockets probley would be called suicide pipes! my family are down to earth honest people and liars and thiefs we feel shouldnt prospur but hey were in america! im so glad to be out of it right now but i miss building pipes! so i might have to do some more Quote
ROCKETMAN29 Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 it was explained to me that rockets eveolved out of the grr suicide pipes.same pipes just one is outframe and one is inframe..grr never got around to makin the inframes because someone supposedly took off and started makin them on thier own... 424284[/snapback] [/quot yea thats what andy did dude, took off making rocket out of frames! and called them suicide pipes! grr didnt just never get around to makin inframes, he didnt have the knowledge to do it, he sent our pipes we made to a company and they made stampings, he stole, lied and here he is today still makin money from it, i cant wait to see his inframes look so nice as the out of frames he has, my guess is they will be out of round like his out of frames are, and have cuts in them to get them to fit the frame! but thats just my guess, hes a scammer in my book! i will slam him untill he comes to me and appologizez for stealing from my family! and thats not much to ask! all you guys who think you have grr pipes! they were Ron Borrinks pipes, hes the real deal! Quote
NYUK Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 just go away clown, i was running suicide pipes before rocketman29 ,minkia,or anyone ever heard or seen of rocket pipes.i have sat by long enough and watched you talk shit.what the freak are you still here for anyway? getting a kick out of watching your doomed buissness flounder?if you were the inventor, innovator of rocket pipes why would you sell a company you worked so hard to create.you try to hard bashing andy every chance you get. any interested hq member that wants the real story behind rocket pipes pm me. Quote
trex banshee Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 now i don't know about the whole pipe situation ROCKETMAN but andy has been really nice to me, he is kinda hard to get a hold of but when you do get a hold of him he will talk about racing bikes and other shit aswell. He has built my swingarm,converted my carbs to alcohol, and there was another little thing i ordered from him with no problems. i know that is little shit compared to all the business NYUK has givin him but that goes to show you he still takes the time to do business with the little guy. Quote
bigboybanshee Posted October 18, 2005 Report Posted October 18, 2005 i cant wait to see his inframes look so nice as the out of frames he has, my guess is they will be out of round like his out of frames are 427166[/snapback] You must be on crack, man...my out of frames from Andy are perfect, absolutely flawless. The welds are beautiful and the pipes fit great, better than most out of frames I see on other people's bikes. If he stole so much from your family, why didn't you file a lawsuit against him???? Maybe because he isn't a thief and you don't have a legitimate case? Quote
ROCKETMAN29 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 pretty much sums it up tyler you can now get a set of GRR pipes inframe as well its a new suicide inframe pipe that andy just came out with in the last few months i would have to say as good as rockets are supposed to preform GRR has a lot better understanding of how to make one hell of a pipe and the design is newer than the standard rocket pipe design oh and the new inframes wont burn your legs off either bottom line, out of frame suicide pipes were designed by Ron Borrink and built by Tom Borrink and were sent to and die shop by andy weeks and what grr sells as suicide out of frame pipes, so they are knock offs of rocket pipes, what ever you might think about grrs pipe building skills is your opinion, however Ron Borrink has been designing and building very hi-performance motors and pipes for many types of riders (mostly sleds) for over 20 years!. grr has this year came out with his first pipe ever! his inframes, i think andy @ grr is a smart guy, but to say hes a better pipe builder than Ron Borrink is like sayin oj didnt murder! rocket pipes are a great pipe, there the ony banshee pipe with 0 cuts in them, fit the frame, and perform top notch! you may like another pipe better but why say bad shit about other peoples stuff, like burn your legs? can you do something that takes this talent? what do you do for a living? im not slamming you! its all preference i feel, id buy shear pipes if i wasnt able to build my own, those are some bad ass pipes, i might have thought about grr inframes but he never called to appologize for stealing from my family! maybe he will someday, id probley respect him for that! 424409[/snapback] Quote
ROCKETMAN29 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 pretty much sums it up tyler you can now get a set of GRR pipes inframe as well its a new suicide inframe pipe that andy just came out with in the last few months i would have to say as good as rockets are supposed to preform GRR has a lot better understanding of how to make one hell of a pipe and the design is newer than the standard rocket pipe design oh and the new inframes wont burn your legs off either bottom line, out of frame suicide pipes were designed by Ron Borrink and built by Tom Borrink and were sent to and die shop by andy weeks and what grr sells as suicide out of frame pipes, so they are knock offs of rocket pipes, what ever you might think about grrs pipe building skills is your opinion, however Ron Borrink has been designing and building very hi-performance motors and pipes for many types of riders (mostly sleds) for over 20 years!. grr has this year came out with his first pipe ever! his inframes, i think andy @ grr is a smart guy, but to say hes a better pipe builder than Ron Borrink is like sayin oj didnt murder! rocket pipes are a great pipe, there the ony banshee pipe with 0 cuts in them, fit the frame, and perform top notch! you may like another pipe better but why say bad shit about other peoples stuff, like burn your legs? can you do something that takes this talent? what do you do for a living? im not slamming you! its all preference i feel, id buy shear pipes if i wasnt able to build my own, those are some bad ass pipes, i might have thought about grr inframes but he never called to appologize for stealing from my family! maybe he will someday, id probley respect him for that! nyuk if you realy only knew the f-ing truth, yea you spend alot of money for grr stuff, im not here to slam andy in any other way than that those f-ing suicide pipes that he sell came from US HE DID NOT DESIGN THEM AND NO F-ING WAY WILL I STOP UNTILL HE ADMITS IT OR SAY SORRY, your out of frame suicide pipes wether you like it or not were designed by my bro not your friend andy, he copied them from behind our backs and my buisness does just fine to this day, i sold rocket design not my company, your facts are generated around grr, i think it sucks you guys dont realy know the truth, i would never waste my time if someone wasnt reaping rewards from my brothers mind! sorry again for a novel! this grr topic always gets me going! think ill 424409[/snapback] Quote
wesw Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 its all preference i feel, id buy shear pipes if i wasnt able to build my own, those are some bad ass pipes my thoughts exactly Quote
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