TORS / spark

[350Xhilaration]

Ok. Newbie issues. Last night I pulled my carbs and put 260 mains in instead of 200s. I didnt get a chance to srtart it. I get a few minutes tonight to actually start it. No spark. I am assuming it has something to do with the TORS. I checked any connectors that may have got pulled on while removing the carbs in such a rip fire ass hurry last night. All are connected. Is there a procedure for syncing the carbs or getting the TORS working properly.

 

Yes I know the best thing to do is scrap the TORS altogether, but that's not an option right now. I need to get this running properly before Saturday AM.

 

Can the connectors be unplugged and jumped, bypassing the TORS? If so, which of the wires at the connector would it be? I havent unplugged the connector yet, So I guess if there are only two wires, they get jumped.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Dead Op]

Well, man your only option is to get rid of them, because theyt are a pain, it will take you a long time just to find the problem with the tors, unless you get them off.

[Handyman]

Ok. Newbie issues. Last night I pulled my carbs and put 260 mains in instead of 200s. I didnt get a chance to srtart it. I get a few minutes tonight to actually start it. No spark. I am assuming it has something to do with the TORS. I checked any connectors that may have got pulled on while removing the carbs in such a rip fire ass hurry last night. All are connected. Is there a procedure for syncing the carbs or getting the TORS working properly.

 

Yes I know the best thing to do is scrap the TORS altogether, but that's not an option right now. I need to get this running properly before Saturday AM.

 

Can the connectors be unplugged and jumped, bypassing the TORS? If so, which of the wires at the connector would it be? I havent unplugged the connector yet, So I guess if there are only two wires, they get jumped.

 

Thanks in advance.

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The carbs do have to be synced. They usually shouldn't come un synced if you didn't screw with the cable. To sync the carbs there is a small inspection window on the right side of both carbs. Once the slides are installed(make sure they aren't in backwards) and move the throttle to moe the slides up and down. There a small piece of metal built into the slides that you will be able to see through the inspection window at teh same time. A flash light will help in seeing the metal piece on the slides go past the inspection window.

A cheap way to get rid of the TORS system is to cut the electrical wires coming from the throttle housing and disconnect the electrical connectors from the TORS(located between carbs and gas tank or just follow the wiring harness from TORS housing) Once those are disconnected you HAVE to disconnect all electrical electrical connectors from the little box under the gas tank on the left side of the frame. Once all this is done you will have no TORS and it doesn't cost a thing(free mod) I hope this helps.

[350Xhilaration]

I didnt do anything with the TORS except unscrew them from the carb tops. Can the slides be put in backwards? What will cause the no spark condition? The slides are going all the way down (closed) as far as I can tell. I am all for disconnecting the TORS. Can this be done without cutting the harness? Can all of the connectors just be unplugged?

[350Xhilaration]

Here's a quote from Toomey's site

 

"Next, remove the whole thumb throttle assembly from the handlebars and unplug the connecting electrical wires.

 

Unplug the wires going from the stock carb tops into the wiring harness. Now, unplug the T.O.R.S. control box located above the left cylinder head, on the frame. (Some people call this the "rev-limiter", but in fact there is NO rev-limiter on a Banshee other than the stock pipes) You must unplug this little black box or the bike won't start."

 

Looks like that will be what I try tonight around 9. If I can at least get spark again, I'll be happy.The rest is tuning.

Edited July 13, 2005 by 350Xhilaration

[350Xhilaration]

Well, I thought about this while in class tonight. There was spark a plenty before I pulled the carbs. I figured the TORS probably was responding to a problem somewhere. I thought that I could have got a slide in 180 degrees out of whack on 1 carb. I pulled the slide out of the right carb, spun it, dropped it back in and kicked it. Whaddya know...Spark. Put the plug wire back on, put the lid back on the airbox, dropped the seat on and it fired on the second kick.

 

Here's the crappy part. It runs way worse now throughout the throttle range. mid throttle is probably the best, but it is waaaay too rich. I pulled the choke and it damn near fell on its face in 3rd. Once again, I have no time to try tuning it. Kids have to go to bed, school bright and early tomorrow and it's dark out.

 

Bright side of this is that I know a lil more about the TORS and that it's now too rich.

 

Thanks to all that posted in other threads before me. I am learning new stuff about these every day. Sure is different than my thumper.

[350Xhilaration]

Pulled the lid off, warmed it up and opened it up. Not a dead spot in the whole throttle range. Pulls like a train (compared to my trike) from bottom to top. I may put the lid back on and pull the snorkel and see if it still runs well. I havent had time to do a plug check yet. I need new plugs first anyway. Thanks guys for the info.

[Handyman]

Well, I thought about this while in class tonight. There was spark a plenty before I pulled the carbs. I figured the TORS probably was responding to a problem somewhere. I thought that I could have got a slide in 180 degrees out of whack on 1 carb. I pulled the slide out of the right carb, spun it, dropped it back in and kicked it. Whaddya know...Spark. Put the plug wire back on, put the lid back on the airbox, dropped the seat on and it fired on the second kick.

 

Here's the crappy part. It runs way worse now throughout the throttle range. mid throttle is probably the best, but it is waaaay too rich. I pulled the choke and it damn near fell on its face in 3rd. Once again, I have no time to try tuning it. Kids have to go to bed, school bright and early tomorrow and it's dark out.

 

Bright side of this is that I know a lil more about the TORS and that it's now too rich.

 

Thanks to all that posted in other threads before me. I am learning new stuff about these every day. Sure is different than my thumper.

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If it's any consolation... I did the same thing with putting in a slide in 180 turn around.....The more you fiddle with it the more you will learn. Hope you get all the kinks worked out. Mine should be out of the shop today. Kind of had the same problem you are.