troyminator Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 First of all: HAPPY MONDAY This is going to be long but bare with me Please I did do many searches to find posts that answer my questions, but I am not having much luck...so if there is another post that answers my question that you know of, please post the link. I am slowly working on getting my bike back together and I want to make sure that I don't do anything first that I maybe should be holding off on: This includes installing clutch covers, stator covers, etc... I got my cases back together and I am working on installing the new clutch at this time: All the gears are installed (primary, kickstarter, idle, etc) To install the clutch basket, I need to torque down the nut that holds the basket to the shaft...the problem is I don't have anything to hold to keep it from turning... so #1: How can I hold the basket or shaft to torque the nut down? #2: Since I will have this new clutch installed, I plan on using 3 stock springs and 3 of the new springs that came with it (this comes from reading other posts on the HQ)...should I leave the clutch cover off until I get the motor back into the frame to do any adjustments to the clutch? #3: How do I adjust the clutch? Besides the standard adjustment at the perch? #4: Installing the drive sproket: How do you guys hold the shaft to install the sprocket when the motor is not on a bike, so the chain can't hold the gear to keep it from moving? #5: Any other suggestions as to what I need to do first, second, etc? Thanks for your help! HQ members are always there to offer advice in troubled and questioned times! T Quote
dogboystoy Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 Sorry man, If I had any advice in rebuild Iwould offer it. Fortunately, I havent had to do that yet. Quote
bbluebanshee Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 they make a tool that holds the clutch boss so it does not turn. i bought one for 30 bucks at my local yammy shop. one of the best tools i have bought for the machine!! it has come in handy many times, on my bike, and on others!! the clutch is adjusted on the perch and on the top of the case. get a banshee manual from clymers. this book helps a lot when rebuilding, and explains step by step, the procedures and torque setting used. Quote
troyminator Posted July 20, 2004 Author Report Posted July 20, 2004 Thanks, I will take a look into the tool. Any other suggestions/tips/tricks? T Quote
BdBanshee Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 I just use a air or electric impact wrench. You don't have to hold the basket at all, this is probably the easiest way. This also works for the front sprocket, and for the flywheel nut. Quote
. Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 I dont know if you have anywhere to set it up but you can hold your crank by the flywheel if you get that on by taking a tie down and wrapping it around the flywheel and connecting it to something. It's a lot more useful tip if you have it in the shee. Tip courtesy of Led I believe I'd leave the clutch cover off (might want to put it on and snug it up when putting it into the bike to protect everything etc.) Will be a lot easier to set up the adjustment. You can do it outside the chassis, but you have to connect the lever and have the adjustment all the way in, and then line up the arrow with the case marking. Get a clymers manual, it'll show you exactly how to set it up, pictures speak a thousand words. Your drive sprocket if you use an air gun you should be able to get it pretty darn tight out of the shee, and make sure you have the lock tab for the nut. But if you dont, just wait till the engine gets back into the chassis to throw it on, and you can use the tie down to lock the engine tight as well then. How did those cases ever turn out anyway? I'm sorry about the one problem after another you were having with them. Quote
svtkid78 Posted July 20, 2004 Report Posted July 20, 2004 You push the adjuster all the way toward the front of the bike and...... Nevermind the best advice is to spend the 30 bucks and get a clymers manual it will tell you the same thing as any of us will. Quote
troyminator Posted July 21, 2004 Author Report Posted July 21, 2004 Hey ., The cases are all back together...boy oh boy where they a pain The darn studs were rusted in and broke off...but a buddy helped me get them out and installed some kineserts in. As for the clymers, I do have one and have been following it, but somethings aren't very clear. I am getting through this...but it is always to get the advice of my fellow banshee owners Thanks a bunch! T Quote
troyminator Posted July 21, 2004 Author Report Posted July 21, 2004 Alright! I got the Tool to hold the clutch hub and install the nut. I was told by one of the bike mechanics not to use an impact wrench and that the torque was important...so all is on. Now for the next nut to tighten... I think I screwed up by installing the clutch plates before torqueing down the nut on the primary gear mounted to the crankshaft...so... #1 Do I remove the clutch and springs...and whatnot to use the clutch tool to hold the clutch and keep it from rotating? #2: Is there another easy way to torque down the nut on the primary gear? The motor is out of the bike, so I can't just put it in gear and have the mrs. sit on it. Thanks again...it's coming along...I will post pictures of my progress. L8R, T Quote
lincster Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Troy Baby!!!!!!! Man, you have been working on that damn thing since March. I'm sure it will run good when you are done though. We are planning a early October trip to Gordons and will be back over Halloween for sure. You can hook up with us if you want. I ride with a new group of guys, no rails, all bikes. They LOVE to ride all the time. One guy just got a new 450 so he is talking smack. Can't wait to smoke him and shut his ass up. Later dude. Quote
troyminator Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Posted July 22, 2004 Linc, I have been only working on it on and off...but now that things are getting closer and closer...I want to work more "on" it So what happen with the "rail" group? This new group...what kind of pace do they ride at? I am always worried about getting in a group that goes "ball's out" and scares me a bit Anyhow...I need help on torqueing the primary gear nut down...any suggestions? Thanks, T Quote
lincster Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Those guys with rails just sit around and talk to much. Actually, I am thinking about building one. These guys I ride with now are really cool. No, we don't ride balls out, just a nice pace. There are a couple of guys that aren't that comfortable, so I take it easy when I lead. Dude, I have never been into the motor that far so I have no suggestions.... Sorry. I can ask the engine builder guy down the street and see what he says. Quote
troyminator Posted July 22, 2004 Author Report Posted July 22, 2004 I got it tightened...I figured out that the tool to hold the clutch boss is also a tool to hold the flywheel. I am back on my way to getting stuff together BTW Linc, where do you guys camp at Gordons? I don't like to risk getting stuck...and it is easy to get stuck over there in some places. L8R, Troy Quote
lincster Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 (edited) Oh I forgot about your Moho. We camp at the bottom of the hill that leads to the drags. Maybe 1/4 mile from it. So you may get stuck. I have gotten close, but just kept my speed up. I'll let you know when we go and see what happens. Maybe I can talk them into closer to the entrance or something. Edited July 22, 2004 by lincster Quote
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